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Old 09-24-2011, 02:52 PM  
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Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over Environmental Concerns

Remember how Obama recently waived new ozone regulations at the EPA because they were too costly? Well, it seems that the Obama administration would rather make people with Asthma cough up money than let them make a surely inconsequential contribution to depleting the ozone layer:

Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere.

The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products.

The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun.

But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.


The Atlantic's Megan McArdle, an asthma sufferer, noted a while back that when consumers are forced to use environmentally friendly products they are almost always worse:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...products/7283/

Er, industry also knew how to make low-flow toilets, which is why every toilet in my recently renovated rental house clogs at least once a week. They knew how to make more energy efficient dryers, which is why even on high, I have to run every load through the dryer in said house twice. And they knew how to make inexpensive compact flourescent bulbs, which is why my head hurts from the glare emitting from my bedroom lamp. They also knew how to make asthma inhalers without CFCs, which is why I am hoarding old albuterol inhalers that, unlike the new ones, a) significantly improve my breathing and b) do not make me gag. Etc.

Well, tough cookies asthma sufferers! You should have written bigger checks to the Democratic party while you had the chance.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ns_594113.html

Thanks for helping the little guy Obastard, I use an otc inhaler.
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Old 09-24-2011, 03:24 PM   #2
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This has been in the works since 2008 when the FDA finalized plans for phasing them out. Gee, who was president then?

Lol if you think a republican president woudn't have done the same thing, or that if one is elected in 2012 they will do anything to change it.

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Old 09-24-2011, 03:41 PM   #3
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This has been in the works since 2008 when the FDA finalized plans for phasing them out. Gee, who was president then?

Lol if you think a republican president woudn't have done the same thing, or that if one is elected in 2012 they will do anything to change it.

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You are right. But, it begs the question, do you support the move? Do you support that the new ones that are eco-friendly all must be prescription and the OTC ones are gone?
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:30 PM   #4
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How much could some inhalers affect the environment? The effect would be tiny, wouldn't it?
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:34 PM   #5
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You are right. But, it begs the question, do you support the move? Do you support that the new ones that are eco-friendly all must be prescription and the OTC ones are gone?
What difference does that make?
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:36 PM   #6
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How much could some inhalers affect the environment? The effect would be tiny, wouldn't it?
Have to add in the vast amount of CO2 that results from unclogged breathing. Global warming is reduced if people are all clogged up. No wait. They would ban exhalers if that was right.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:38 PM   #7
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What difference does that make?
Well, they banned OTC inhalers. Generally they are cheaper cause you don't have to go see a doc and prove you cannot breath. The new ones will all be prescription only so when Bubba needs an inhaler he cant go to WalMarts and get it until he gets a office visit/bill and a script.

That would be a difference would it not?
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:50 PM   #8
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Well, they banned OTC inhalers. Generally they are cheaper cause you don't have to go see a doc and prove you cannot breath. The new ones will all be prescription only so when Bubba needs an inhaler he cant go to WalMarts and get it until he gets a office visit/bill and a script.

That would be a difference would it not?
No, what difference does it make whether he supports the move or not? That was the question you asked.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:19 PM   #9
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The company that makes Primatene Mist, Armstrong Pharmaceuticals, said in July that it was "actively finalizing its internal development" of an HFA-propelled epinephrine product.

But Armstrong acknowledged that "there will likely be a time period between December 31, 2011, and the date of FDA approval" for the new version. The company has not specified a timeline for the marketing application.

The FDA noted that its rule on CFC epinephrine inhalers bans their sale and manufacture after this year, but patients who stock up before the deadline may continue to use the products safely until the stamped expiration date.

http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/OTC/28673
Gosh, sounds like the Invisible Hand at work. What will you bitch about then?
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:22 PM   #10
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No, what difference does it make whether he supports the move or not? That was the question you asked.
Oh. Sorry. I was asking for more information. Thats all. Seems like bad stuff, regardless of what party is involved should be seen as bad stuff.
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this sucks. primatine doesn't work for me.
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Old 09-24-2011, 09:31 PM   #12
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The company that makes Primatene Mist, Armstrong Pharmaceuticals, said in July that it was "actively finalizing its internal development" of an HFA-propelled epinephrine product.

But Armstrong acknowledged that "there will likely be a time period between December 31, 2011, and the date of FDA approval" for the new version. The company has not specified a timeline for the marketing application.

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http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/OTC/28673
Gosh, sounds like the Invisible Hand at work. What will you bitch about then?
The fact that they would even ban Asthma inhalers that work to begin with for such a meaningless reason. The company has had 10 years to replace the propellant and haven't done so yet, meanwhile hundreds of thousands depend on these to prevent expensive emergency room visits.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:31 AM   #13
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this sucks. primatine doesn't work for me.
Isn't Primatine the only OTC inhaler left? Why would this affect you?
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:20 PM   #14
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:24 AM   #15
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Yeah would be so awesome to go back to when coal companies could give your kids asthma with no recourse, DuPont could pollute streams and give people cancer with no recourse, DDT companies could kill all the bald eagles on the west coast with no recourse... those were the days.

No conservative seems to give a shit about this stuff until it happens in their own backyard, then they find a way to blame the govt somehow for not protecting them - when their stated goal is to end all govt regulations on the environment. Bizzaro world as usual.
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