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Can someone with ESPN Inside post this article for me?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...ppreciated-qbs

I'd like to read it.

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Old 10-09-2011, 11:12 PM   #2
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We're in an era of quarterback-dominated play, and because of that some of the old maxims don't capture what we're seeing. For instance, there isn't a single class of elite quarterbacks that simply dominate statistically from week to week. We have a sense of who the best are, but we're seeing massive yardage totals put up everywhere. The 400-yard game is becoming what had been the 300-yard game. Last year, eight quarterbacks passed for over 3,900 yards; in 2009, 10 quarterbacks topped 4,000 yards. That number could climb in 2011.

But as we debate what statistically seems to be a growing level of elite arms, I want to point out top traits of the most underappreciated guys from a film standpoint. And what better place to start, given the happenings of recent weeks, than with the Cowboys' signal-caller ...

Tony Romo
Negative perception: Good, not great quarterback; melts down in clutch

Underappreciated for: If you want the scouting report on Romo, talk to other quarterbacks around the NFL. Fans can't appreciate the way other players marvel at Romo. They simply shake their head at his talent. Romo is a brilliant, anticipatory thrower. He throws nearly as fast as Kurt Warner, who I consider the fastest ever in terms of making throws off early anticipation of a read. On film, you'll see he consistently throws well before guys get into breaks in their routes. You have to get your head up with Romo, because the ball will be on you. Ask Jason Witten, who teams do everything to cover but still gets his because Romo can deliver so early.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:14 PM   #3
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:16 PM   #4
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:17 PM   #5
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I think Romo is appreciated for what he is... a QB who's a lock to **** you over when it matters the most.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:18 PM   #6
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:21 PM   #7
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:25 PM   #8
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People actually pay for that tripe?
heh, yea.....what the hell?? Its not telling us anything that pretty much everybody doesnt already know.

The Passing game is up from passers 20 or 30 years ago...and Romo is up and down. What a revelation!
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:21 AM   #9
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that's not the whole god damn article
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nah why would I pay for that shit? It's useless...just like Trent Dilfer.
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We're in an era of quarterback-dominated play, and because of that some of the old maxims don't capture what we're seeing. For instance, there isn't a single class of elite quarterbacks that simply dominate statistically from week to week. We have a sense of who the best are, but we're seeing massive yardage totals put up everywhere. The 400-yard game is becoming what had been the 300-yard game. Last year, eight quarterbacks passed for over 3,900 yards; in 2009, 10 quarterbacks topped 4,000 yards. That number could climb in 2011.

But as we debate what statistically seems to be a growing level of elite arms, I want to point out top traits of the most underappreciated guys from a film standpoint. And what better place to start, given the happenings of recent weeks, than with the Cowboys' signal-caller ...

Tony Romo
Negative perception: Good, not great quarterback; melts down in clutch

Underappreciated for: If you want the scouting report on Romo, talk to other quarterbacks around the NFL. Fans can't appreciate the way other players marvel at Romo. They simply shake their head at his talent. Romo is a brilliant, anticipatory thrower. He throws nearly as fast as Kurt Warner, who I consider the fastest ever in terms of making throws off early anticipation of a read. On film, you'll see he consistently throws well before guys get into breaks in their routes. You have to get your head up with Romo, because the ball will be on you. Ask Jason Witten, who teams do everything to cover but still gets his because Romo can deliver so early.


Romo's greatest skill may be when nothing is there early. He plays in chaos as well as any QB in the league, and saves his offensive line every bit as much as Michael Vick. And the "clutch" questions are just wrong. Heading into the "Monday Night Football" matchup with Washington, Romo actually had one of the highest fourth-quarter passer ratings in recent years. Let's just make this clear: It's flat-out wrong to call him a choke artist. He's had some high-profile bad decisions, but it gets blown out of proportion because his games are all high-profile affairs. Check the ratings and you see numbers like this. More eyeballs, more scrutiny. He's the most-watched QB in the NFL. In his last full season, Romo had one of the steadiest seasons in history, but that seems to be forgotten because of recent weeks.

Matt Hasselbeck
Negative perception: Solid quarterback, not great; needs great O-line for results; health a question

Underappreciated for: I'll preface this by saying I played with Hasselbeck and consider him a good friend. The skill I have always been in awe of with Hasselbeck is how good he is in the red zone. When he's down there, he's able to get the ball out quick with great anticipation. The windows get tighter and the decision-making process speeds up, but he sees it and delivers on a consistent basis -- fades, back-shoulders, slants, on the move. One thing I look for statistically is what percentage of red zone attempts are touchdown passes, and Hasselbeck is off to another great start this year, with six TD passes in 16 attempts, almost 40 percent. Aaron Rodgers (31 percent), Drew Brees (25), Ben Roethlisberger (20) and many others trail.

I also think while many have pointed to this period as Hasselbeck's decline phase, I thought he was dealing the last couple of years far better than the results show. Seattle's offensive line was a disaster last season, and the receiving corps had been largely cobbled together over the last few seasons. Hasselbeck has something left, and the Titans are seeing it.

Matt Schaub
Negative perception: Good numbers, but benefits from a great WR; immobile; average arm talent

Underappreciated for: There may not be a better chunk-yardage thrower in the league right now. Check this stat: Schaub is 29-of-37 on play-action passes this year, tops in the league. Most of the chunk yards in this league come from some form of play-action, and Schaub is a master in that area. He's just great at getting the ball down the field. Last year, he was 18-of-41 on throws of over 21 yards, also the best in the league.

A lot of people will point out that Andre Johnson is such a huge part of that, but if Johnson was with a quarterback that couldn't deliver those kinds of strikes, it wouldn't matter. It's more accurate to say that Schaub's ability to make those deep, penetrating throws has further catapulted Johnson into the discussion as the best wide receiver in the NFL. And it's not all deep throws. Schaub delivers as well underneath and down the seams. Last season, tight ends Owen Daniels and Joel Dreessen caught a combined 74 passes. Arian Foster caught 66 passes. Schaub has a big arm, but he can dial it down well.

Kyle Orton
Negative perception: Average quarterback; a compiler without an elite skill

Underappreciated for: Orton is most underappreciated for his arm talent. He has the ability to get the ball down the field, but he can also deliver into tight windows underneath. Last year he had the most completions over 40 yards, and he has the ability to deliver in high-leverage situations. He's a very good third-down passer, a guy who can execute when it's hardest to do so, and measures up very well on third-down pass attempts, one of the totals I look to when I want to know how a quarterback is performing. It's when both teams know you are throwing, and you can still execute.

I also think Orton is underappreciated because of the situation he's in. With so many fans dead-set on seeing Tim Tebow, it can be hard to feel like it's home. It reminds me of a guy like Kurt Warner when he was in New York. Orton isn't Warner, but the reception just wasn't there, and Warner eventually landed in Arizona, where his career took another good turn with a fan base that was thrilled to have him.

Before joining ESPN as an NFL analyst in July 2008, Trent Dilfer played 14 seasons as an NFL quarterback. Trent's work can be seen across a wide range of ESPN programming. He can be found on Twitter @TDESPN.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:31 AM   #14
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I'm glad he pointed out Romo is the most watched (thus most scrutinized QB) in the business...

It just shows how much the "casual" fan doesn't know about football. I don't give a shit about numbers...Matt Cassel put up amazing numbers today...you watch Tony Romo play football and then you watch Matt Cassel play football and one of them looks like a QB.
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