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Old 10-20-2011, 08:53 AM  
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Ryan Tannehill

I'll be closely watching him through the rest of the NCAA season. I expect him to end up a 1st round prospect, and more likely to be available in the range where KC will be picking.

He seems to have good pocket presence, throws well on the move, has a live arm, and plays smart. He's looking good. I'm not sure he's the QB I'm championing just yet, but he's on my radar and has already passed the likes of Foles and and Jones in my book.

Curious to hear what others think of him. Who's seen a lot of him? What are his downsides IYO?

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Old 10-20-2011, 09:10 AM   #2
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Why would he be a 1st round prospect? There are like 5-6 QBs ranked above him. Unless 4 of them don't enter then he wont be a 1st rounder.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:16 AM   #3
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Why would he be a 1st round prospect? There are like 5-6 QBs ranked above him. Unless 4 of them don't enter then he wont be a 1st rounder.
You mean 6 weeks into the NCAA season? Gee, I don't know why any player's draft stock might rise or fall.

Half the guys ranked above him already look like they don't deserve to be.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:20 AM   #4
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Not sure what Tannehill has done to all of a sudden make him top 3 QB in college. He had one breakout game against Baylor to boost his 7-5 TD:INT ratio.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:30 AM   #5
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Not sure what Tannehill has done to all of a sudden make him top 3 QB in college. He had one breakout game against Baylor to boost his 7-5 TD:INT ratio.
I guess Landry Jones had "one breakout game" against Ball State then. Matt Barkley had "one breakout game" against Syracuse.


Have you seen him play?

I don't think it's going out on a limb to say Tannehill is playing well and his draft stock is rising.
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I've watched most of his games and think he's pretty crappy. He did have a good one against Baylor, though.
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I guess Landry Jones had "one breakout game" against Ball State then. Matt Barkley had "one breakout game" against Syracuse.


Have you seen him play?

I don't think it's going out on a limb to say Tannehill is playing well and his draft stock is rising.
How does one breakout when they are already on everyone's list (Jones and Barkley)? Tannehill is fighting for best of the rest and no one is going to take him over RG3 with the year RG3 is having.

Name me the list of teams that WILL take a QB in the first round.

I can only name 2 that will absolutely take a QB no matter who it is;

Miami
Seattle

Now, there are 2 other teams I can name that might take a QB in the first but it depends on how their new QB fairs and who is available at the position;

Denver
Washington

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How does one breakout when they are already on everyone's list (Jones and Barkley)? Tannehill is fighting for best of the rest and no one is going to take him over RG3 with the year RG3 is having.

Name me the list of teams that WILL take a QB in the first round.

I can only name 2 that will absolutely take a QB no matter who it is;

Miami
Seattle

Now, there are 2 other teams I can name that might take a QB in the first but it depends on how their new QB fairs and who is available at the position;

Denver
Washington
Minnesota, Kansas City, Indianapolis, and Tennessee could all realistically be in the market for a QB.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 QBs taken in round 1.

Obviously Luck will go. After that I think it comes down to Jones, RG, Barkley, Foles currently. Barkley and Foles don't look all that good so far, Griffin is short. It's entirely plausible that there is movement among the current QBs ranked 2-8.

Maybe saying I "expect" him to become a 1st round prospect is over stating things, but I think he has the skill set to do it. I also think some of the early names have not lived up to the hype.

I guess I'm not surprised that there's disagreement. I'm just not buying how you act like the current guys are all locks as first rounders.
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Minnesota, Kansas City, Indianapolis, and Tennessee could all realistically be in the market for a QB.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 QBs taken in round 1.

Obviously Luck will go. After that I think it comes down to Jones, RG, Barkley, Foles currently. Barkley and Foles don't look all that good so far, Griffin is short. It's entirely plausible that there is movement among the current QBs ranked 2-8.

Maybe saying I "expect" him to become a 1st round prospect is over stating things, but I think he has the skill set to do it. I also think some of the early names have not lived up to the hype.

I guess I'm not surprised that there's disagreement. I'm just not buying how you act like the current guys are all locks as first rounders.
Minnesota and Tennessee just spent a first on a QB last year. Tennessee isn't going to be drafting anywhere near the top so you can scratch them off your list. Minnesota may be looking for a QB, but its only 1 QB and they wont be getting the #1 pick so you can scratch them off the list.

Indianapolis isn't going to draft a QB other than Luck. They've got Manning locked up for years and if they can't get Luck you can bank on them drafting a player to protect Manning.

And the Chiefs looking for a QB is just wishful thinking.
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If luck is the meter we use to judge "worthy of a first round pick" then none of the other guys are first rounders in my opinion. Barkley is awful I wouldnt touch that guy. Jones is a system qb and so far no one from that system has proven to be a star(Bradford started well but just looks bad now, any ways Bradford is 10 times the qb jones is). RG 3 is the only other guy out there right now who i think has first round value and i put him at late late in the first round. I don't want to do what the vikes did last year and go into the draft saying we have to get a 1 round qb no matter who it is. I dont want next years Ponder.
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Minnesota and Tennessee just spent a first on a QB last year. Tennessee isn't going to be drafting anywhere near the top so you can scratch them off your list. Minnesota may be looking for a QB, but its only 1 QB and they wont be getting the #1 pick so you can scratch them off the list.

Indianapolis isn't going to draft a QB other than Luck. They've got Manning locked up for years and if they can't get Luck you can bank on them drafting a player to protect Manning.

And the Chiefs looking for a QB is just wishful thinking.
Ok, so I said I thought 4 could go. You already conceded Seattle and Miami, and there's a real chance of Indy taking 1 (IMO Manning's age combined with the nature of his injury has to put the QB position on the radar for them whether it's Luck or not)

I had forgotten about Locker, and it may be a stretch to say Minnesota would give up on Ponder regardless of how he plays.

I still feel Denver, Washington, and KC are real possibilities. Unlikely all of them, but entirely possible at least one of them.

I'll stand by what I said that I feel 4 QBs could go in the 1st round. Of course, there's still a lot of college football to be played, and it's realistic that there aren't 4 guys that play well enough to earn 1st round status.
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I'd rather have Ricky Stanzi, who had a far more impressive senior year than Tannehill is having so far.
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I was wondering when a thread about him would pop up. It seems like he's been lost among the other "top" QB's. Being an A&M graduate I've seen every one of his games so I feel like I can speak semi-intelligently about him.

Tannehill has a good, not great, arm with above average elusiveness in the pocket. Once out of the pocket he is extremely good at reading the defense (probably due to his time as a WR). I also believe he is more accurate on the move than he is in the pocket. He delivers a solid ball and his lack of experience as a QB actually gives him a higher upside than some of the other guys that many would rate around him in the draft (Foles, Barkley).

If we miss out on Luck (we will) and RGIII I don't think there's another QB in this draft I"d rather see the Chiefs draft. I wouldn't put him top 15 but I'd be fine getting him in the mid-to-late first and elated to get him in the second.
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Minnesota, Kansas City, Indianapolis, and Tennessee could all realistically be in the market for a QB.
Why would Minnesota and Tennessee be in a market for QB when they both just drafted one in the first round this year?
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Why would Minnesota and Tennessee be in a market for QB when they both just drafted one in the first round this year?
I bet Christian Ponder is gonna be a good one...
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