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An Unexpected Journey: Quint on the set of The Hobbit! Part 1 - Concerning Hobbiton

Published at: Oct 31, 2011 6:13:46 AM CDT

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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here currently writing from the overgrown wilds of New Zealandís North Island. Iíve been rather secretive about my trip to the southern hemisphere and for that I apologize, but it had to be done.

Hereís the deal. Iím kicking off a new, temporary, regular column that Iím calling An Unexpected Journey because thatís exactly what it is. A little over a month ago an email arrived asking of my interest in embedding myself on the set of The Hobbit for the entirety of their location shoot, spending over 2 months in New Zealand rolled in with the crew and writing up their adventures, hassles, triumphs and tribulations as they traveled all over the country shooting bits and pieces from the upcoming two-parter prequel to Lord of the Rings. As Winston Zeddemore taught us all, the answer to this kind of question is always YES!

Calling The Hobbit a prequel doesnít exactly feel right, though. This isnít a film cooked up to cash in on an absurdly successful franchise. As most Tolkien readers and human beings over the age of 7 know, The Hobbit burst forth from the pen of JRR Tolkien first. There are many Middle Earth stories, but The Hobbit is the natural choice. Itís high adventure and lets us revisit some of our favorite locations and characters within its own, unique story.

Case in point, the very first location visited on this trip: Matamata, Waikato, New Zealand Ė North Island, also known as Hobbiton.









Gorgeous, isnít it? As amazing as it looks in those pictures or in the movies thereís something incredibly surreal and humbling to stand ON TOP of Bag End and overlook The Shire. I love (good) CGI, I have a lot of respect for the digital artists that toil away for hours and days and weeks and months in a dark room so we can go to Ancient Greece or Pandora or spend some time with Jurassic Park dinosaurs or Gollum or Caesar or those fookiní prawns, but if there was ever a shred of doubt that real wins it was obliterated as the sheep bayed, horses neighed, wind blew and smoke started pouring out of hobbit hole chimneys dotting the lush green landscape in the valley below me.





And when I say green I mean GREEN. The grass in this North Island New Zealand farmland is like Wizard of Oz Technicolor. Itís so bright it almost hurts the eyes.

But we all know New Zealand is beautiful. Thatís a given at this point. By the end of December youíll be given your fill of unbelievable scenery images as I travel from location to location (especially when I hit the South Island). Letís get into what was actually happening in Hobbiton.

Wake up time was 5:15am, which barely gave me enough time to get showered and presentable before making the 40+ minute drive from my Hamilton hotel to the location deep in the rolling green hills of Matamata.

Once past security I found myself driving along a small dirt and gravel road following signs to crew parking. Sure enough, the countryside was beautiful and Tolkeinesque, but it wasnít until I made a turn and saw the incredibly iconic stone bridge leading to The Green Dragon that it really struck me where I was.

That feeling intensified standing at base camp, perched on top of Bag End, looking over Hobbiton with dozens of Hobbit holes laid out over acres of green hills and the massive party tree anchored in the middle of everything.

The crew was setting up a crane out on the narrow walkway in front of Bag End for their first shot actually in Hobbiton in over 10 years. Because of the narrow and steep path down, the crew had to bring crane parts down and assemble much of it there. It took a little while, but before too long the familiar circular green front door of Bag End cracked open and out stepped an even more familiar face.

Munching on jellied toast, Frodo Baggins sauntered out and hopped down the steps leading to the mailbox, grabbed some mail and headed back inside.





Whatís Frodo doing in The Hobbit? I donít want to spoil too much, but I can say that Frodo is part of the connecting tissue between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring.

In fact, the next shot was an over the shoulder on Elijah Wood hammering a sign up on Bag Endís front gate: ďNo Admittance Except On Party Business.Ē You guys should have an idea where that puts this moment in the timeline.

Martin Freeman stood in for Ian Holm, who shot all of his scenes and close-ups in London. They would sometimes play footage theyíve already shot to remind themselves of what they had done previously and to help them match up shots. Peter and crew did that for these reverse shots on Elijah and I got to see Ian as Bilbo once again. It was quite extraordinary, actually. Seeing Ian in close up, wearing the wig, the vest and the pointy ears just put a smile on my face.

While I didnít talk to Elijah about it, I bet it meant the world to him to have Martin there actually giving a performance for him to act off of. Freeman even adopted a little bit of Ian Holmís speech patterns for these scenes and was so good at impersonating Ian Holm that more than once I wondered if the voice I was hearing over the coms was Ianís on playback or Martinís in real life. Usually in these situations theyíll have the script girl or one of the dialect coaches read the lines and while that works a charm, thereís something extra special about a performer giving a performance. Like I said, I didnít talk to Elijah about it, but I bet he appreciated Martin doing that for him.

Their conversation is about Gandalf and if Bilbo thinks Gandalf will show up. Bilbo says ďHe wouldnít miss a chance to let off his whiz-poppers. Heíll put on quite a show, youíll see,Ē and Frodo grins, saying heís going to go surprise him and bounds off down the path like a kid at Christmas. When I say he bounds down the path thatís not an exaggeration for illustrative purposes. He was damn near skipping, a glimpse of that pre-ring Frodo we meet in Fellowship.

After Frodo leaves the frame is very wide featuring The Shire in all its glory; The Green Dragon and mill smack dab in the middle.





Itís my understanding this shot will transition to ď60 Years EarlierĒ with Young Bilbo sitting in front of Bag End contently smoking a pipe and casually blowing smoke rings as Gandalf comes along and presents him with his adventure.

At lunch I caught up with Elijah who was wide-eyed and smiling, obviously enjoying being back in Hobbiton with the furry feet on. He ran off and I said, ďWhere do you think youíre going?Ē His reply: ďBack to Bag End, my friend!Ē

I had to run over to wardrobe to get fitted for my cameo the next day, but soon made my way back to set. We had the same scene going and this time they had the camera tight on Frodo. While it was a tighter shot than before, it still captured the landscape behind him. I mean, thatís the whole reason we were out there in the first place, so I wasnít going to see a whole lot of close-ups and insert shots being filmed. In this case, it was a full on front shot of Frodo, the massive Party Tree behind him.

Seeing the footage of Ian as Old Bilbo was crazy, but nothing compared to seeing Elijah as Frodo in the furry-footed flesh. Iíve gotten to know Elijah pretty well over the last 13 years and it was the very definition of surreal talking to Frodo. Not Elijah. Frodo. I was literally not talking to a friend, but a fictional character, not to mention the magnifier of actually seeing him in Hobbiton.





I have to talk about the livestock. This will be the first time Iíve traveled internationally where I will have to check off the Yes box when asked if Iíve been near livestock on the arrival card. All forms of livestock were on set. There was even a runaway cow who decided she didnít like the film business on the first take and bolted right the hell out of Hobbiton.

It was quite funny, actually. I feel bad for the production having to pause, but from my high-up point of view (remember I was standing on top of the hill overlooking Hobbiton this whole day) it was very entertaining watching this cow haul ass along the path between the hobbit holes with a poor A.D. running about 20 feet behind her, desperately trying to catch up.

There were all manner of animals on the set ranging from goats to roosters, pigs, oxen, horses and all of them had handlers there to make sure they were fed, watered and safely munching on the lush green grass of Matamata. They would quickly duck out of frame whenever shots would go up.

Shortly after getting the shot on Frodo the unmistakable sound of chopper blades hit our ears. It was circling us. Obviously someone had hired it to fly above and take photos of the set.

An hour or two later a small, single-engine prop plane did the same thing, flying low and circling. Photos hit the net shortly after, I noticed. The crew was quite annoyed, not because Hobbiton was being exposed to the world, but because the choppers and planes were constantly getting in the shot and the sound of the engines was either ruining takes or making the production halt until they got out of earshotÖ which could be a long while if they are circling.

So, it was an unwanted intrusion, especially frustrating when you consider they were already waiting for the light to be right, to get behind a cloud or peak out from behind a cloud depending on the previous shot.

It got to the point that producer Zane Weiner asked me to take a photo of the plane so we can try to get its tail number. I had the 18mm-55mm lens on my camera (which means itís a shorter lens and doesnít zoom in too far), so I ran back to my bag, grabbed my 200mm lens and popped it on, but I was too late. The plane had already gone. Zane wanted me to let you guys know I failed at that particular task. And on my first day of location reporting, too.

That was one day of location shooting on The Hobbit. One day down, two months to go! Before I conclude this article, Iíd like to set up a little space where Iíll be featuring a member of the crew. God willing Iíll be able to do this with each of my pieces, introducing you to the fine folks who I spend my days with. These guys are the unsung heroes of filmmaking, so I feel they should be represented.

Kicking things off will be Kiran Shah.





If youíve watched the appendices on the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings films you should recognize Kiranís name. Heís a much loved character around the set. Heís an actor, stunt man and scale double. On Rings he doubled Elijah Wood, but before Lord of the Rings he had a massive career.

For instance, heís in Raiders of the Lost ArkÖ heís the guy who brings the poisoned dates into Indy and Sallah. He doubled Short Round in Temple of Doom, he was a character in Ridley Scottís Legend (Blunder) and even knew Stanley Kubrick.

The story he told me was that he got to know Kubrick a little bit, but even being on friendly terms with the maestro didnít save him when he popped in for a visit on the set of Eyes Wide Shut. Stanley spotted him and said, ďKiran, out!Ē We all know the stories about how Kubrick didnít like a lot of crew around and that was Kiranís little tale about it.

He also mentioned that LOTR and Hobbit illustrator/designer Alan Lee did the character designs for Legend and even drew the character that Shah ended up playing to look just like him. Shah attributes getting the role to Lee because he remembered auditioning for it and seeing Ridley Scott do a double take when Shah entered the room, looking back at the character design and up at him again.

In The Hobbit, Shah is up to his usual shenanigans, making the crew (and visiting movie geek reporters) crack up in-between takes and doubling hobbits. In the above picture heís waiting to double Martin Freemanís Bilbo, which is why his eyes are reverse raccooned in his picture. Thereís an eerie silicone mask of Bilboís face that heíll put on when Bilbo is needed to be seen in a close to correct proportion.

Shah will also be a Goblin in the film and is just an overall joy to be around and as such he is this columnís inaugural featured crew member.

The next report will cover my cameo appearance during a Hobbit market in front of The Green Dragon. There is a particular actor in this scene named Leroy that Iím especially excited to tell you about. He has huge talents and thatís even an understatement. I expect that report to land in a few days, but taking my own pictures means a bit of a clearance process.

I know the watermarks are annoying. I hate them, you hate them, so I made them as unintrusive as possible. If I see a bunch of sites take these images without credit and a linkback future pictures will have bigger watermarks. So, donít be a dick. I donít care if you use the image, just give a link back here, will yaí? Donít ruin it for everybody.





More soon! This is going to be a crazy couple of months! Oh, and Happy Birthday to Peter Jackson! Thanks for letting me join the circus for a spell, sir!

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Old 03-26-2013, 01:45 PM   #421
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It's not the guy, it's the studio. He wanted to do two pics. They asked him to do three.
You sure about that? I thought I'd read an interview where he said he wanted to do three to juxtapose that story more directly with LOTR.
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After seeing the 1 hour preview webcast. It looks like part two is going to be full of awesome stuff. Mirkwood, Thranduil, Laketown, Erebor, Smaug's Lair, and what will presumably be Smaug's demise.

So that makes me actually a little worried for part 3. They'll have the battle of the five armies and...what? Maybe I need to read the book but I don't remember much else.
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So that makes me actually a little worried for part 3. They'll have the battle of the five armies and...what? Maybe I need to read the book but I don't remember much else.

1 hour of battle, and 2 hours of Bilbo and Frodo frolicking back at the Shire.
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After seeing the 1 hour preview webcast. It looks like part two is going to be full of awesome stuff. Mirkwood, Thranduil, Laketown, Erebor, Smaug's Lair, and what will presumably be Smaug's demise.

So that makes me actually a little worried for part 3. They'll have the battle of the five armies and...what? Maybe I need to read the book but I don't remember much else.
There isn't much else if they go strictly by the book.
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You sure about that? I thought I'd read an interview where he said he wanted to do three to juxtapose that story more directly with LOTR.
It's possible I'm confusing the story with the story about the original LOTRO trilogy (as i recall the story, he pushed it as either one or two films originally, when he was going from studio to studio and getting rejected over-and-over; nobody wanted to do a franchise, and he was shocked when new line said "make it 3!"), but I've been under the impression that the move to 3 films (for The Hobbit) was studio-driven, regardless of what's being said publicly. Could be wrong. The other thing I do remember is that he did say at one point they had tons of extra footage that they weren't using, enough for a third movie.

In any case, if he is the driving force behind it, I don't think it's about greed. For him. For the studio on the other hand....
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Yes, without question. The real question is how?

What happened in the immediate aftermath of Gandalf battling the Balrog is hard to understand/explain, and open to interpretation. The way I usually explain it is that Gandalf also died (at least his body did -- he's a demi-God -- he's older than the planet he's walking on) -- and when his spirit returned to the West, the Gods pretty much picked him up, brushed him off, made him a bit more powerful (dont' ask how, other than making him the head of the Order of Wizards) and sent him back. Like Tom Bombadil (who is in the books, but not the movies), there's really no good explanation, but that's how I think of it.

The idea of the body of a god/demigod (Valar/Maiar is the formal name) beign lost but the spirit continuing appears repeatedly in the books. Sauron loses his body (which was attractive and used to fool men/elves) in the drowning of Numenor. He then takes shape again during the Second Age, before he is overthrown by Men and Elves (the opening scene of the Lord of the Rings movies, when you see his ring cut from his hand. Likewise, Morgoth himself was previously able to take whatever physical form he wished, but ultimately lost that power and became trapped, if you will, in the body that he had.

Note also that Sauron never had ANY actual physical manifestation in the Lord of the Rings books. In the movie he is this big, physical glowing Eye. In the books, the Eye is his SYMBOL only, and he has no physical shape at all. Presumably, if he had been able to recover the One Ring, which held much of his power, he could perhaps have physically manifested again. Until then, in the books at least, it is his SPIRIT that is active in the world, controlling his minions, etc.
I agree with this...but in addition, I also have always thought that when Gandolf returned to the West, Sauramon's betrayal was also fully revealed...and at that time he lost his ranking as Sauramon the White (even though he did not know it yet). The Gods, in turn, promoted Gandolf and sent him back to do what Sauramon would not.

This is part of what makes Tolkien's works so great....they are written in a way that challenges the mind, and are open to vastly different interpretations.
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After seeing the 1 hour preview webcast. It looks like part two is going to be full of awesome stuff. Mirkwood, Thranduil, Laketown, Erebor, Smaug's Lair, and what will presumably be Smaug's demise.

So that makes me actually a little worried for part 3. They'll have the battle of the five armies and...what? Maybe I need to read the book but I don't remember much else.
The Battle of Five Armies could easily provide enough material for an entire movie.
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I actually forgot Dol Guldur/Necromancer stuff...

Does Gandalf fight at the battle of the five armies?

If not they could cut back and forth between that.
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I actually forgot Dol Guldur/Necromancer stuff...

Does Gandalf fight at the battle of the five armies?

If not they could cut back and forth between that.
Yeah, Gandalf was in the battle.

I'm actually pretty excited to see how well they pull off the Battle of Five Armies. That has hella potential. Eagles fighting wargs. Elves vs. Orcs. Thorin's Dwarves kicking ass in fancy armor. Beorn turning into a giant bear and laying waste to the entire Orc army, and eventually Bolg/Azog(however that works out).

It could be the most awesome LOTR battle yet...
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After seeing the 1 hour preview webcast. It looks like part two is going to be full of awesome stuff. Mirkwood, Thranduil, Laketown, Erebor, Smaug's Lair, and what will presumably be Smaug's demise.

So that makes me actually a little worried for part 3. They'll have the battle of the five armies and...what? Maybe I need to read the book but I don't remember much else.

I'd agree, but I find it hard to think that they'll deal pack everything from Beorn to Smaug's demise into one movie. Just seems like alot, especially if you're adding all the Dol Guldur stuff.

But it's also hard to imagine where you end the second movie if not with Smaug at Lake Town. So....yeah...I dunno.
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I need to go back and re-read the Hobbit again......along with the LotR books.
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I agree with this...but in addition, I also have always thought that when Gandolf returned to the West, Sauramon's betrayal was also fully revealed...and at that time he lost his ranking as Sauramon the White (even though he did not know it yet). The Gods, in turn, promoted Gandolf and sent him back to do what Sauramon would not.
Yes, right. That is when Gandalf was "elevated" to the White. Part of the power boost he got (however that happened, exactly).

Here's a power boost, oh, and now you're the White. Go do Saruman's job since he's failed so utterly...

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Yeah, Gandalf was in the battle.

I'm actually pretty excited to see how well they pull off the Battle of Five Armies. That has hella potential. Eagles fighting wargs. Elves vs. Orcs. Thorin's Dwarves kicking ass in fancy armor. Beorn turning into a giant bear and laying waste to the entire Orc army, and eventually Bolg/Azog(however that works out).

It could be the most awesome LOTR battle yet...
Yes. Yes it could.
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But it's also hard to imagine where you end the second movie if not with Smaug at Lake Town. So....yeah...I dunno.
Maybe the end of the second movie will be Smaug about to attack lake town.
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Maybe the end of the second movie will be Smaug about to attack lake town.

Depends, really, on what he cuts or keeps, and where he wants the Dol Guldur stuff to fit in. Per the book, if memory serves, Gandalf splits off after Beorn's and doesn't meet up with them until the Battle of Five Armies, so Jackson can put it pretty much anywhere in either of the remaining two movies, or cut back and forth.

He's got alot of flexibility and plenty of material for 6 or so hours worth of movies. It all depends on how he wants to put it together.
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