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An Unexpected Journey: Quint on the set of The Hobbit! Part 1 - Concerning Hobbiton

Published at: Oct 31, 2011 6:13:46 AM CDT

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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here currently writing from the overgrown wilds of New Zealandís North Island. Iíve been rather secretive about my trip to the southern hemisphere and for that I apologize, but it had to be done.

Hereís the deal. Iím kicking off a new, temporary, regular column that Iím calling An Unexpected Journey because thatís exactly what it is. A little over a month ago an email arrived asking of my interest in embedding myself on the set of The Hobbit for the entirety of their location shoot, spending over 2 months in New Zealand rolled in with the crew and writing up their adventures, hassles, triumphs and tribulations as they traveled all over the country shooting bits and pieces from the upcoming two-parter prequel to Lord of the Rings. As Winston Zeddemore taught us all, the answer to this kind of question is always YES!

Calling The Hobbit a prequel doesnít exactly feel right, though. This isnít a film cooked up to cash in on an absurdly successful franchise. As most Tolkien readers and human beings over the age of 7 know, The Hobbit burst forth from the pen of JRR Tolkien first. There are many Middle Earth stories, but The Hobbit is the natural choice. Itís high adventure and lets us revisit some of our favorite locations and characters within its own, unique story.

Case in point, the very first location visited on this trip: Matamata, Waikato, New Zealand Ė North Island, also known as Hobbiton.









Gorgeous, isnít it? As amazing as it looks in those pictures or in the movies thereís something incredibly surreal and humbling to stand ON TOP of Bag End and overlook The Shire. I love (good) CGI, I have a lot of respect for the digital artists that toil away for hours and days and weeks and months in a dark room so we can go to Ancient Greece or Pandora or spend some time with Jurassic Park dinosaurs or Gollum or Caesar or those fookiní prawns, but if there was ever a shred of doubt that real wins it was obliterated as the sheep bayed, horses neighed, wind blew and smoke started pouring out of hobbit hole chimneys dotting the lush green landscape in the valley below me.





And when I say green I mean GREEN. The grass in this North Island New Zealand farmland is like Wizard of Oz Technicolor. Itís so bright it almost hurts the eyes.

But we all know New Zealand is beautiful. Thatís a given at this point. By the end of December youíll be given your fill of unbelievable scenery images as I travel from location to location (especially when I hit the South Island). Letís get into what was actually happening in Hobbiton.

Wake up time was 5:15am, which barely gave me enough time to get showered and presentable before making the 40+ minute drive from my Hamilton hotel to the location deep in the rolling green hills of Matamata.

Once past security I found myself driving along a small dirt and gravel road following signs to crew parking. Sure enough, the countryside was beautiful and Tolkeinesque, but it wasnít until I made a turn and saw the incredibly iconic stone bridge leading to The Green Dragon that it really struck me where I was.

That feeling intensified standing at base camp, perched on top of Bag End, looking over Hobbiton with dozens of Hobbit holes laid out over acres of green hills and the massive party tree anchored in the middle of everything.

The crew was setting up a crane out on the narrow walkway in front of Bag End for their first shot actually in Hobbiton in over 10 years. Because of the narrow and steep path down, the crew had to bring crane parts down and assemble much of it there. It took a little while, but before too long the familiar circular green front door of Bag End cracked open and out stepped an even more familiar face.

Munching on jellied toast, Frodo Baggins sauntered out and hopped down the steps leading to the mailbox, grabbed some mail and headed back inside.





Whatís Frodo doing in The Hobbit? I donít want to spoil too much, but I can say that Frodo is part of the connecting tissue between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring.

In fact, the next shot was an over the shoulder on Elijah Wood hammering a sign up on Bag Endís front gate: ďNo Admittance Except On Party Business.Ē You guys should have an idea where that puts this moment in the timeline.

Martin Freeman stood in for Ian Holm, who shot all of his scenes and close-ups in London. They would sometimes play footage theyíve already shot to remind themselves of what they had done previously and to help them match up shots. Peter and crew did that for these reverse shots on Elijah and I got to see Ian as Bilbo once again. It was quite extraordinary, actually. Seeing Ian in close up, wearing the wig, the vest and the pointy ears just put a smile on my face.

While I didnít talk to Elijah about it, I bet it meant the world to him to have Martin there actually giving a performance for him to act off of. Freeman even adopted a little bit of Ian Holmís speech patterns for these scenes and was so good at impersonating Ian Holm that more than once I wondered if the voice I was hearing over the coms was Ianís on playback or Martinís in real life. Usually in these situations theyíll have the script girl or one of the dialect coaches read the lines and while that works a charm, thereís something extra special about a performer giving a performance. Like I said, I didnít talk to Elijah about it, but I bet he appreciated Martin doing that for him.

Their conversation is about Gandalf and if Bilbo thinks Gandalf will show up. Bilbo says ďHe wouldnít miss a chance to let off his whiz-poppers. Heíll put on quite a show, youíll see,Ē and Frodo grins, saying heís going to go surprise him and bounds off down the path like a kid at Christmas. When I say he bounds down the path thatís not an exaggeration for illustrative purposes. He was damn near skipping, a glimpse of that pre-ring Frodo we meet in Fellowship.

After Frodo leaves the frame is very wide featuring The Shire in all its glory; The Green Dragon and mill smack dab in the middle.





Itís my understanding this shot will transition to ď60 Years EarlierĒ with Young Bilbo sitting in front of Bag End contently smoking a pipe and casually blowing smoke rings as Gandalf comes along and presents him with his adventure.

At lunch I caught up with Elijah who was wide-eyed and smiling, obviously enjoying being back in Hobbiton with the furry feet on. He ran off and I said, ďWhere do you think youíre going?Ē His reply: ďBack to Bag End, my friend!Ē

I had to run over to wardrobe to get fitted for my cameo the next day, but soon made my way back to set. We had the same scene going and this time they had the camera tight on Frodo. While it was a tighter shot than before, it still captured the landscape behind him. I mean, thatís the whole reason we were out there in the first place, so I wasnít going to see a whole lot of close-ups and insert shots being filmed. In this case, it was a full on front shot of Frodo, the massive Party Tree behind him.

Seeing the footage of Ian as Old Bilbo was crazy, but nothing compared to seeing Elijah as Frodo in the furry-footed flesh. Iíve gotten to know Elijah pretty well over the last 13 years and it was the very definition of surreal talking to Frodo. Not Elijah. Frodo. I was literally not talking to a friend, but a fictional character, not to mention the magnifier of actually seeing him in Hobbiton.





I have to talk about the livestock. This will be the first time Iíve traveled internationally where I will have to check off the Yes box when asked if Iíve been near livestock on the arrival card. All forms of livestock were on set. There was even a runaway cow who decided she didnít like the film business on the first take and bolted right the hell out of Hobbiton.

It was quite funny, actually. I feel bad for the production having to pause, but from my high-up point of view (remember I was standing on top of the hill overlooking Hobbiton this whole day) it was very entertaining watching this cow haul ass along the path between the hobbit holes with a poor A.D. running about 20 feet behind her, desperately trying to catch up.

There were all manner of animals on the set ranging from goats to roosters, pigs, oxen, horses and all of them had handlers there to make sure they were fed, watered and safely munching on the lush green grass of Matamata. They would quickly duck out of frame whenever shots would go up.

Shortly after getting the shot on Frodo the unmistakable sound of chopper blades hit our ears. It was circling us. Obviously someone had hired it to fly above and take photos of the set.

An hour or two later a small, single-engine prop plane did the same thing, flying low and circling. Photos hit the net shortly after, I noticed. The crew was quite annoyed, not because Hobbiton was being exposed to the world, but because the choppers and planes were constantly getting in the shot and the sound of the engines was either ruining takes or making the production halt until they got out of earshotÖ which could be a long while if they are circling.

So, it was an unwanted intrusion, especially frustrating when you consider they were already waiting for the light to be right, to get behind a cloud or peak out from behind a cloud depending on the previous shot.

It got to the point that producer Zane Weiner asked me to take a photo of the plane so we can try to get its tail number. I had the 18mm-55mm lens on my camera (which means itís a shorter lens and doesnít zoom in too far), so I ran back to my bag, grabbed my 200mm lens and popped it on, but I was too late. The plane had already gone. Zane wanted me to let you guys know I failed at that particular task. And on my first day of location reporting, too.

That was one day of location shooting on The Hobbit. One day down, two months to go! Before I conclude this article, Iíd like to set up a little space where Iíll be featuring a member of the crew. God willing Iíll be able to do this with each of my pieces, introducing you to the fine folks who I spend my days with. These guys are the unsung heroes of filmmaking, so I feel they should be represented.

Kicking things off will be Kiran Shah.





If youíve watched the appendices on the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings films you should recognize Kiranís name. Heís a much loved character around the set. Heís an actor, stunt man and scale double. On Rings he doubled Elijah Wood, but before Lord of the Rings he had a massive career.

For instance, heís in Raiders of the Lost ArkÖ heís the guy who brings the poisoned dates into Indy and Sallah. He doubled Short Round in Temple of Doom, he was a character in Ridley Scottís Legend (Blunder) and even knew Stanley Kubrick.

The story he told me was that he got to know Kubrick a little bit, but even being on friendly terms with the maestro didnít save him when he popped in for a visit on the set of Eyes Wide Shut. Stanley spotted him and said, ďKiran, out!Ē We all know the stories about how Kubrick didnít like a lot of crew around and that was Kiranís little tale about it.

He also mentioned that LOTR and Hobbit illustrator/designer Alan Lee did the character designs for Legend and even drew the character that Shah ended up playing to look just like him. Shah attributes getting the role to Lee because he remembered auditioning for it and seeing Ridley Scott do a double take when Shah entered the room, looking back at the character design and up at him again.

In The Hobbit, Shah is up to his usual shenanigans, making the crew (and visiting movie geek reporters) crack up in-between takes and doubling hobbits. In the above picture heís waiting to double Martin Freemanís Bilbo, which is why his eyes are reverse raccooned in his picture. Thereís an eerie silicone mask of Bilboís face that heíll put on when Bilbo is needed to be seen in a close to correct proportion.

Shah will also be a Goblin in the film and is just an overall joy to be around and as such he is this columnís inaugural featured crew member.

The next report will cover my cameo appearance during a Hobbit market in front of The Green Dragon. There is a particular actor in this scene named Leroy that Iím especially excited to tell you about. He has huge talents and thatís even an understatement. I expect that report to land in a few days, but taking my own pictures means a bit of a clearance process.

I know the watermarks are annoying. I hate them, you hate them, so I made them as unintrusive as possible. If I see a bunch of sites take these images without credit and a linkback future pictures will have bigger watermarks. So, donít be a dick. I donít care if you use the image, just give a link back here, will yaí? Donít ruin it for everybody.





More soon! This is going to be a crazy couple of months! Oh, and Happy Birthday to Peter Jackson! Thanks for letting me join the circus for a spell, sir!

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Old 12-23-2011, 06:02 AM   #31
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Not watching it right now: but I bet it's Thorin Oakenshield. They really broke canon with the dwarves and made some of them pretty human looking.

Here he is:


That being said, I can appreciate why they did it. If they just had a bunch of bearded brawny dudes, the characters would be indistinguishable. They broken canon on the dwarven race in order to make for better film. Judging from the preview, I approve.


Can't be Thorin, he's on the left as the camera pans over. Thorin is the one who starts singing.

I'm fine with breaking canon to make a better film. I'm fine with reasonable deviations. It's impossible to turn the book into film precisely, and each is a separate medium of entertainment. The point is to keep to the heart and soul of the story, which Jackson consistently does. I have a few quibbles here and there, and REALLY don't like the Witch King seeming to be clearly more powerful than Gandalf at their confrontation at the gate in the extended edition of RoTK. That one really pisses me off, but by and large, he did an amazing, fantastic job.
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:04 AM   #32
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I kinda think that's Kili, he's just standing up when the other dwarves are sitting. And he looks tall for a dwarf...

Looks like you're probably right. Better than any guess I can make anyway...
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:02 PM   #33
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So at :51-:53, the man (clearly not a Dwarf) on the far right -- who the hell is that? Aragorn isn't on the list of cast members.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/fullcredits


Meanwhile, noted that the cast list includes both King Thror and King Thrain, and Azog. VERY NICE. I don't necessarily know how they work it into the story arc well, but I'd love to see some of Appendix A to LoTR in the movies. Christ that would rule....
Alright, I gotta ask...

I've read The Hobbit as well as FotR, TTT & RotK (although the last 3 have been awhile ago, re-reading them now) and have heard those names before, but don't know much about them.

Basically, what the hell is Appendix A and where can I get more of my LOTR fix? TIA.
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:17 PM   #34
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Here's my private hope:

You know how the FoTR opens with the Great War against Sauron on cutting the ring from him. My hope is that they do something similar, but with this story:

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The story of how a hobbit invented the game of golf starts with a reference in "The Hobbit" book in chapter one "An Unexpected Party" relating to an ancestor of Bilbo Baggin's by the name of Bullroarer.

Bullroarer finds himself in the "Battle of the Green Fields" against the goblins of Mount Gram. Armed with a wooden club he charges against the goblin king Golfimbul. The blow from Bullroarer's wooden club knocks Golfimbul's head through the air for a hundred yards until it falls down into a rabbit hole.

The tale certainly explains some good origins on the beginnings of golf. Named after the goblin king "Golf"imbul, played with a wooden club, and the object of game to get a hole in one!
I imagine the movie starts out with Bilbo telling Frodo about the history of his own adventure, but it could easily incorporate an early history of Hobbits as well.
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So at :51-:53, the man (clearly not a Dwarf) on the far right -- who the hell is that? Aragorn isn't on the list of cast members.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/fullcredits


Meanwhile, noted that the cast list includes both King Thror and King Thrain, and Azog. VERY NICE. I don't necessarily know how they work it into the story arc well, but I'd love to see some of Appendix A to LoTR in the movies. Christ that would rule....
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Alright, I gotta ask...

I've read The Hobbit as well as FotR, TTT & RotK (although the last 3 have been awhile ago, re-reading them now) and have heard those names before, but don't know much about them.

Basically, what the hell is Appendix A and where can I get more of my LOTR fix? TIA.
I know nothing about Tolkien, but a fellow projectionist and big Tolkien fan said something about after "Hobbit" and "LOTR" Tolkien wrote short stories to fill in some of the gaps, and that Peter Jackson liberally included a lot of stuff from those to better the continuity between the films. Apparently, from what I'm told, "Hobbit" as a stand-alone book isn't very good (e.g. characters wander in and out, like Gandalf saying "I have something to take care of" and vanishing for half the book or something like that).
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Oh, yeah, and I ran the trailer for myself last night (as it's actually not on any films right now that are in release) and it looks damn good on the big screen. I wasn't even that big of a fan of the three "LOTR" movies and this trailer made me want to see the film pretty bad. Quality is good too. (I also ran a "Wrath of the Titans" trailer and it was amazing how bad the quality of that looks compared to "Hobbit", both in terms of the special effects and simply the image clarity.)
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I kinda think that's Kili, he's just standing up when the other dwarves are sitting. And he looks tall for a dwarf...

He's also thin for a dwarf. The "reasoning" behind it is that they are nephews of Thorin and are "young" dwarves, and have not yet attained the stockiness and full beards of more mature dwarves.
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I guess theres been some discussion over the way Jackson shot this. He shot it at 48 frames per second which is a new process. Apparently it gives it an ultra realistic look which some fans didn't like. Not like traditional film. More like HD video. JD could probably expand on this.
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The whole reason movies like this exist is because Lucas pushed the boundaries of cinema 30 years ago.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:28 PM   #43
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I guess theres been some discussion over the way Jackson shot this. He shot it at 48 frames per second which is a new process. Apparently it gives it an ultra realistic look which some fans didn't like. Not like traditional film. More like HD video. JD could probably expand on this.
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Yes, I heard he screened some of the movie not too long ago and the people watching it absolutely hated it. At 48fps the image moves so quickly that it looks too realistic. Your analogy is right on: think about prime-time cop shows from a decade or two ago (filmed on film) vs. daytime soap operas (filmed on videotape). Or, think about any "Entertainment Tonight" footage you've seen of a movie being filmed, where you can see the director and lighting guys as the star runs through the scene, and they yell cut, and it's all being filmed for ET using video cameras, and you think, "Wow, that looks horribly fake and cheesy". Same thing. The human brain has been conditioned to expect a movie to look a certain way. We don't WANT it to look like we're watching it in real life, because "real life" doesn't look like film. But apparently Peter Jackson was adamant that he's not dumbing it down to traditional 24fps, and that this was the future of cinema and people would "get used to it". I'm not sure he's going to be able to stick to his guns on this, though, if the studios think it'll ruin the box office. Or maybe they'll do a 24fps release and a 48fps release. (Why not, they already have 2k and 4k, and 2D and 3D.)
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:51 PM   #44
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Yes, I heard he screened some of the movie not too long ago and the people watching it absolutely hated it. At 48fps the image moves so quickly that it looks too realistic. Your analogy is right on: think about prime-time cop shows from a decade or two ago (filmed on film) vs. daytime soap operas (filmed on videotape). Or, think about any "Entertainment Tonight" footage you've seen of a movie being filmed, where you can see the director and lighting guys as the star runs through the scene, and they yell cut, and it's all being filmed for ET using video cameras, and you think, "Wow, that looks horribly fake and cheesy". Same thing. The human brain has been conditioned to expect a movie to look a certain way. We don't WANT it to look like we're watching it in real life, because "real life" doesn't look like film. But apparently Peter Jackson was adamant that he's not dumbing it down to traditional 24fps, and that this was the future of cinema and people would "get used to it". I'm not sure he's going to be able to stick to his guns on this, though, if the studios think it'll ruin the box office. Or maybe they'll do a 24fps release and a 48fps release. (Why not, they already have 2k and 4k, and 2D and 3D.)
Fascinating....

Your right, our brains have been trained that films are supposed to look a certain way. I hated the look of the Mann flick Public Enemies. I think it was shot on HD digital?

Theres something to be said fo traditional film. People want and expect to be transported out of real life for a few hours. They don't want it to look like real life.
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:07 PM   #45
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We've been conditioned to think 48 fps looks like television news. I think with time, we would get used to it... that doesn't mean that's what's best for the art form.

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