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**2012 Sporting Kansas City\Soccer Thread**

Sporting Kansas City was eliminated from MLS Cup contention after losing to Houston 2-1 aggreagate over the span of two games. They finished the year as US Open Cup Champions and a Kansas City team record of 63 points.

MLS Cup Final | LA Galaxy vs Houston Dynamo | December 1st, 3:30 CT









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Old 11-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #2116
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Kinnear just routinely puts a clownsuit on Vermes. This series is effectively over, given how goal-allergic SKC is at home.

SKC won't sniff an MLS cup without some roster alterations.
I think a coaching alteration would not hurt either. Whose decision is it to not have adequate depth on the roster. Also who makes the decision to be so thin on offense.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:48 PM   #2119
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I think a coaching alteration would not hurt either. Whose decision is it to not have adequate depth on the roster. Also who makes the decision to be so thin on offense.
The challenge with the present situation is perhaps the unyielding demanding coaching style of Vermes doesn't appeal to the stereotypical Forward. He has total say and if you get in his sh@t house you stay a long time. Someone is going to have to intervene and demand there be some diva forwards that can finish on the end of Zusi's feeds.

I will be out there, I will yell my arse off, but I wouldn't put any chips on putting a two goal GD on Houston Wednesday.... Sucks....
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:54 PM   #2120
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The MLS adopted its playoff format from the Champions Cup League, because American audiences tend to value playoffs more than the traditional European leagues' format.

So, you're either going to get the home-and-home format--and therefore, a playoff-- or the team with the highest points at the end of the season will be crowned champions. Would you rather the latter?
Er, what? That's not the champions league format. And I'm not sure I've ever heard Champions cup league ever. And home and home?
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:58 PM   #2121
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You have no cups in MLS because they're ****ing stupid. In European countries, it's different because you have big rivalries that go years back in history. In the US, you have empty stadiums.

I like MLS - I think it's great for the development of soccer in this country. But it'll never mean anything until it drops the single entity structure.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:44 PM   #2122
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You have no cups in MLS because they're ****ing stupid. In European countries, it's different because you have big rivalries that go years back in history. In the US, you have empty stadiums.

I like MLS - I think it's great for the development of soccer in this country. But it'll never mean anything until it drops the single entity structure.
What is the single entity structure?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:07 PM   #2123
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Vermes outcoached AGAIN by Kinnear. Team was out hustled too. ****ing pathetic effort. This is exactly why I didn't want to see Houston.
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That is the teams first loss since July. It hurts bad because it is the playoffs. But that is not a team that needs to be rebuilt. Kinear outcoaches Vermes on game day. But he outcoaches everyone else too. Tgey had a bad game and the outright refusal of the referee to call a foul in the midfield, which normally favors us, couldnt possibly favor houston more.

SKC are probably 3 to 1 underdogs now and that is too bad. But it is not all bad. It has been a good season. Only one team gets to win.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:43 PM   #2126
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That is the teams first loss since July. It hurts bad because it is the playoffs. But that is not a team that needs to be rebuilt. Kinear outcoaches Vermes on game day. But he outcoaches everyone else too. Tgey had a bad game and the outright refusal of the referee to call a foul in the midfield, which normally favors us, couldnt possibly favor houston more.

SKC are probably 3 to 1 underdogs now and that is too bad. But it is not all bad. It has been a good season. Only one team gets to win.
What I want to know is why Vermes goes into a defensive shell 99.99999999%. Likewise, he's no fan of subs most of the time. What happened today?

Today? he decides to sub in bench riding OFFENDERS who have had little to no playing time thereby throwing off the entire field of play. He COULD have subbed in more defenders, the second goal was at the 75th minute, enabling us to head back to Livestrong needing only two DOABLE goals to win the series. But three? For a team that doesn't score?

It still irks me. I am now even more convinced than before that he is NOT the coach who will win the MLS cup. He was so panicked and out coached he forgot what got him there when the chips were down. Dismal coaching performance by Vermes.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:10 AM   #2128
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Hopefully the game being on Wed. will keep their loud and obnoxious fans at home. They are the WORST of the traveling fans. Even Seattle's fans were classier. The Fire's are also pretty wretched.
Seattle has some of the best fans in the game, and some of the worst. No surprise really. When you're as passionate about the game as they are in the Pacific Northwest you're going to see the good and the bad.

That said, their reaction to losing the cup earlier on was pretty bad. So, as a Sounders fan let me offer up congratulations, and a good game on their behalf. Emotions were high. The right calls were made. Sporting KC earned that victory.

Wasn't so bad for me. I've got 2 teams in MLS. I love Sporting as well. However, I'm still learning the game.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:04 AM   #2129
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The challenge with the present situation is perhaps the unyielding demanding coaching style of Vermes doesn't appeal to the stereotypical Forward. He has total say and if you get in his sh@t house you stay a long time. Someone is going to have to intervene and demand there be some diva forwards that can finish on the end of Zusi's feeds.

I will be out there, I will yell my arse off, but I wouldn't put any chips on putting a two goal GD on Houston Wednesday.... Sucks....
I have not been a Vermes fan. Even as he was hoisting the US Open Cup and I was having some doubts about my deep seat belief that he will not win us a MLS cup. He simply does not prepare his teams adequately for post season. We beat Colorado last season but they were plagued with injuries. Still, we beat the defending champions to have a home game and one win to get to the championship. The team came out uninspired, flat, and disorganized. Yes, they'd had a great win in the rain a few days before which was over the top emotional and a let down was to be expected. But they were just zombies on the field.

Hopefully lessons learned. Apparently not. Something has gone terribly wrong when your team is putting rusty bench warmers with little or no playing time on the field to help your offense in a such a high profile game. It would have been wiser to be his usual rigid self and play for the one goal differential heading back to LSP.

No, he let's Kinnear call the shots, whines on national TV at half time, and then starts throwing desperate measures out when they most needed consistency and to hunker down...the crap he usually does during regular season when you have the luxury of taking chances.

The first game of the playoffs is NOT the time to throw caution to the wind and gamble.

I put this loss entirely on him. He was not prepared with adequate depth on the offense and when he needed to bolster the defense he instead decided to play players who'd not seen the field much the entire regular season.

And whatever he's doing to prepare his team on long layoffs is not working. They seem out of sorts and listless upon returning from most long breaks.

Also, whatever happened with Collin taking him off the field and then putting him in right before the playoffs was another mistake. I think since his return the defense has not looked in sync. Collin is my favorite player but he has not been able to return to his pre-benching form. I understand disciplining your player but whatever happened has caused lasting impact on the field. That is on Collin but also Vermes for not containing the damage and impact of the discipline TO Collin vs. let it disrupt the team.

Sigh. Ok, enough anger. Going back to my Cauldron inspired tranquility. No, it was not over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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That is the teams first loss since July. It hurts bad because it is the playoffs. But that is not a team that needs to be rebuilt. Kinear outcoaches Vermes on game day. But he outcoaches everyone else too. Tgey had a bad game and the outright refusal of the referee to call a foul in the midfield, which normally favors us, couldnt possibly favor houston more.

SKC are probably 3 to 1 underdogs now and that is too bad. But it is not all bad. It has been a good season. Only one team gets to win.
Rebuilt? No. Supplemented though? Yes.
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