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Old 11-27-2011, 12:15 PM  
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Trailer for Ridley Scott's Alien prequel leaked

Terrible footage but here is a good description:



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  • The trailer starts with the 20th Century FOX logo. You hear a transmission. A woman (which I assume to be Rapace) is saying "...got to stop... was wrong.. so wrong...I'm so sorry...". You can hear the last part very clearly.
  • The first scene shows a spaceship (similar to the one seen in the first leaked trailer) flying towards a planet on the background.
  • Next you see is the surface of a planet and some sort of facility. It kinda looks like a Lunar base to me.
  • Now they show this scene from the Comic-con footage.
  • You can see the film's title forming in the background during most of the trailer. Pretty much like in the introductory scene of Alien.
  • Next is the Ampule room. They show it off from all different angles and finally a close up of the ampules. Suddenly you hear a high pitch scream. It's not human. It sounds like if it was from a facehugger. Then there's a lot of smoke from what seems to be acid corrosion. They show a guy in a spacesuit. He's alone. Screaming and putting his hands over his helmet. It looks just like the Kane/derelict scene in Alien.
  • Now they show the same spaceship from earlier. Same shot as in the first leaked trailer. Flying towards what seems to be a different planet in the background.
  • The next 2 scenes are from the comic-con footage. 1, 2.
  • Now they show Vickers running across a hallway. Same scene as in the first leaked trailer.
  • Next seems to me someone in a spacesuit. Driving a futuristic vehicle in some desert like surface. Heading towards some structure or facility in the middle of nowhere at full speed.
  • Impressive shot of the Iceland waterfalls.
  • Next is this scene from the comic-con footage. They seem to be shooting at something or someone but they don't show it.
  • Next you see is some grey-black serpent like creature. Jumping ala facehugger from some sort of grey-goo cavity. Now they show the whole scene. There's two guys in their spacesuits. One lying on the ground (it seems to be the impregnated guy from earlier) and another one checking on him. The creature jumps from what seems to be the insides of the previous impregnated guy to the other one.
  • Now they show someone with a expression of pain. The guy is still in his spacesuit and someone appears to be holding him in their arms.
  • Now you can see a device or hologram of some sort. It looks like an atom or a planet. I'm not sure if it's a planet or just some molecular structure tbh. The center of the hologram is a single sphere so it should be a planet system. Probably the coordinates to some other world.
  • Now this shot from comic-con.
  • Next is a spaceship being destroyed while in the air.
  • One guy in a spacesuit pouncing at someone else while holding something. It looks like it's going to hurt.
  • Next is the space jockey room. Same as in the Comic-con footage. The center piece of the plate opens and the space jockey chair rotates out of the ground.
  • Next scene shows off a very inflated belly. Like if the person was pregnant but there's something bigger than a chestbuster moving inside. Seems to be Rapace's.
  • Idris Elba yells while aboard of what seems to be the Prometheus.
  • The sandstorm + Rapace spacesuit scene. Same as in the first leaked trailer. Close up of Rapace. She gets hit by the storm and she falls down a pit. It's the scene depicted in the official still released around comic-con.
  • Now you can clearly read Prometheus. The whole title has formed in the background. They show it for a few seconds.
  • Now a close up of Rapace's face. She's in pain. It seems to be the same scene as in the first leaked trailer. The one with the green lasers scanning her belly.
  • Now they show someone in a spacesuit looking at the derelict in the surface of a planet with clear skies.
  • The words "They went looking"
  • The derelict again. It's vertical to the ground. It would be impossible to enter it from the same place as in Alien.
  • The words "for earth's beginning"
  • Still on the same planet. The derelict (or something really big) seems to be falling down from above. The guy in the spacesuit is running away now. Trying not to get crushed.
  • The words "what they found"
  • They now show two guys running away.
  • The words "could be its the end"
  • They show the same guys again. Running away from what appears to be a huge gigerish structure (it feels like it's moving but it's hard to tell). Perhaps the derelict in flight. There's a lot of smoke. What appears to be debris on fire are falling from above. They keep running away from it.
  • The trailer ends.
  • The music reminded me a lot of the one from Inception (the 'horns sounds'). But mixed with what appears to be the music from the original trailer for Alien. Same music during all the trailer.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:32 PM   #376
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Sorry, that's just too much of a stretch.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:22 PM   #377
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More speculation at http://www.memphisflyer.com/SingAllK...etheus-part-ii (p.s. I'm not sure I buy all of his last paragraph):

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:25 PM   #378
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Lindelof is the Grima Wormtongue to Ridley Scott's Theoden.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:37 PM   #379
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Lindelof is the Grima Wormtongue to Ridley Scott's Theoden.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:19 AM   #380
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Saw this tonight.
Massive disappointment. I cannot recommend this to anyone that I know. It just fell flat on its massive and mostly empty face.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:39 AM   #381
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Full plot synopsis.

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I haven't seen the movie, but what you guys are talking about doesn't really fall in line with the synopsis does it?
All the talk about Vickers origins and what not. Was she not created in a lab by the engineers? Does she turn into a uhhhh, star Beast?lol
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:54 AM   #382
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:13 AM   #383
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Saw this tonight.
Massive disappointment. I cannot recommend this to anyone that I know. It just fell flat on its massive and mostly empty face.
Lack of character development and jumping right into the planet kinda turned it off a bit for me. Still enjoyed it mostly. Still left alot of questions. Maybe if a part 2 is made then it makes it better
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:59 AM   #384
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Love it or hate it, it has more discussion being bandied about on the internet than any other movie in a LONG LONG time...

Another person's take on some points from the film...

http://www.lexwerks.com/article/on-p...chopped-liver/

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On Prometheus and Chopped Liver

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This post is going to contain spoilers for Prometheus. *If you’ve not seen Prometheus*and you liked Alien*and Blade Runner, then you probably shouldn’t read further — you’ll be happier if you see the spectacle and then come back for the exposition. *If you thought Blade Runner*was, frankly, kind of dumb… then I’m afraid the Alien*lineage isn’t going to make up for a whole lot of the character behavior in Prometheus. *Except for Michael Fassbender, who plays the artificial person far, far too perfectly.
But now that you’ve seen it (if you’re going to), I’m sending you off to read some other guy’s mythological analysis of it. *He is “Cavalorn,” his post is “Prometheus Unbound: What The Movie Was Actually About,” and it is 100% spoiler and spot-on enough that I’m glad he covered so much of it so I don’t have to. *Really, he did an amazing job and you should go read it… *But he did miss a few things and that’s what I’m going to write about.
My spoiling begins… now.
Vickers is a replicant. *Flat out is. *Her only act of lust was to maintain her cover as a human in the same way David wore his environment suit. *(And Ridley Scott is the Blade Runner guy, remember?) *But Meredith’s trick is that she was too perfect, too equal to her creator, so she got shunted (to the board room) and ignored (but not destroyed) to make room for the more servile creation. *This was the running motif of Data and Lore in Star Trek: The Next Generation, but is also the motif of Adam, Lilith, and Eve. *But that’s not mythological enough, so let’s call up Paradise Lost*and see that Lucifer gets pushed aside when Jesus is set up to mediate to God. *Like them, Vickers feels bitterness at her creator for being created first but appreciated less. *This is not, however, a precise comparison: what was that nonsense about creating life versus creating machines? *Peter Weyland’s illusions of creating life effectively make him not a god, but rather Satan — who is good with illusions that invite idolatry but incapable of creating, certainly not creating life per se. *After Satan’s fall (back in Paradise Lost) he did have a pseudo-offspring of Sin, female, that was born from his head (intellect?)*to add another mythological layer to the artificiality of Ms. Vicker’s life.
[All references to Paradise Lost*are being cribbed from David Hawkes' The Faust Myth*in case you're wondering how I'm pulling this feat of recall. *If you've read this book and it suddenly occurs to you that the recordings of the Engineers, and especially the super-pretty stellar navigation, are performative signs indicative of their Satanic power... bonus points to you! -- but I don't think that was what Ridley Scott had in mind as it contrasts poorly with the bigger self-sacrifice motif.]
Let’s spend more time on Peter Weyland, specifically his sneakiness. *Now Cavalorn says roughly that “the atmosphere in the cylinder chamber was reacting to the human psyche” which is nonsense from the perspective of the gene-based Alien-lore perspective but I can’t say it’s wrong here at a symbolic, mythological level. *And Weyland’s presence actually supports it at the symbolic level. *The noble scientists aren’t here to be corrupting and evil and stuff, but the truth is that they can’t help it: they brought it with them. *That Weyland claimed in the video recording to be dead — thus hypothetically leaving the scientists unshackled and in the clear to pursue their beliefs (and that’s an odd phrase) — underscores the corruption bound into the pursuit. *They thought they were clear of its taint, but they weren’t. *We’re reminded of it by the trillion-dollar conversation, and again by Fifield, but only Weyland is big enough to taint the whole thing. *But this is symbolic, so it is not, however, a problem unique to Peter Weyland: *when Shaw continues her quest, she takes her faith (the cross pendant) and her techno-idolatry (David’s talking head) with her, with the latter ensuring her continued failure.
What exactly this means to Ridley Scott, Blade Runner guy, I cannot readily say. *I personally find it odd that his characters are going backwards. *Perhaps I’ve been reading too much Jung to sympathize with their quest. *But look at them: Shaw, Weyland, Holloway, and Roy Batty all think they’ve got a personal creator who has The Answers if only they can find said creator to pose questions to to him/her/it. *And while Roy’s quest makes some sense because he knows he’s a replicant, the Prometheus*mission makes rather less sense because they’re evolved humans — a point that gets lost when they consider the Engineers. *A mortal Terran knows their evolutionary lineage, but seems to regard the mortal-as-demonstrated Engineer with human DNA as having popped up ex nihilo*to create those very special people we call Liz and Pete and Chuck. *This makes sense if Peter is Lucifer trying to confront God, but the larger tragedy of the film is that they didn’t find God, they found Some Guy — a lone, anonymous, anger-management-impaired survivor out of a whole crew of Some Guys. *Some Guys may have a history as boring as the rest of us or as freaky as the Greek pantheon — really, read up on Saturn — but we don’t even begin to question this until the film is over. *Put simply, the explorer’s inability to address the mythology unfolding before them like a xenomorph egg made me want to slap facehuggers on the lot of them. *That people who got a trillion dollar stellar expedition for studying cave paintings wouldn’t spend an hour racking their brains for which ancient mythologies best described what they actually found (and I’m totally going with Nephilim from Genesis 6:4) showed how two-dimensional the characters really were.
The final interesting thing* is that the personal quest that these characters go on, they ostensibly claim to be going on for the benefit of the species. *To answer the great questions of the species, they spend over two years utterly disconnected from the species, putting a really huge number of kilometers between them and Earth. *And how many known-humans were in the film that weren’t on board the Prometheus? *I’m remembering 2 at the dig site. *While this demographic sample isn’t unusual for an Alien*film, or any horror film, it does seem odd to pursue a personal quest in the name of a species that isn’t really represented within the main characters’ field of vision. *Note that this isn’t the same as saving a species that won’t ever know it was saved, as the captain does. *This isn’t just sacrifice, this is the unsung sacrifice that echoes the Babylon 5*episode “Comes an Inquisitor” — and if you noticed the black Captain Janek showing his social affiliations with the Christmas tree, antique squeeze-box, Weyland Corp.-emblazoned shirt, et cetera, it becomes clear that Janek is sacrificing his temporal life to save his ongoing roots, especially contrasted with the sterilized-to-selfishness white-and-blonde Vickers (replicant status notwithstanding). *And yet. *When we consider that they thought they’d left the human condition*behind them so that it wouldn’t corrupt the purity of the answers they genuinely wanted for themselves, it makes perfect sense as to why they’d want to be leaving the species behind. *It’s the people who don’t wholly leave their species behind that are willing to make the sacrifice necessary to save it. *The point, however, appears to be this: if you go looking for truth — whether pilot or scientist — please be honest with yourself and don’t expect to take it home with you.
Overall, I’m glad I watched Prometheus*once but I don’t think I’ll be watching it again.
* Because I’m not touching the — bluntly, backwards — notion of “Space Jesus” or any anti-Catholic implications of Mr. Weyland’s name being “Peter” that could follow from that; No.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:56 AM   #385
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If Vickers was a replicant then why was she so frantically trying to put on the space suit at the end? Do replicants breathe oxygen and react just like humans? I forgot
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If Vickers was a replicant then why was she so frantically trying to put on the space suit at the end? Do replicants breathe oxygen and react just like humans? I forgot
I think the point is, she may not know she's a replicant.
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Love it or hate it, it has more discussion being bandied about on the internet than any other movie in a LONG LONG time...

Another person's take on some points from the film...
Some people are putting way way too much thought into this...
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:01 AM   #388
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If Vickers was a replicant then why was she so frantically trying to put on the space suit at the end? Do replicants breathe oxygen and react just like humans? I forgot
Yes. Flesh and blood, everything is human.

But I still don't buy it.
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I also never bought into the idea that Deckard was a replicant, either.
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