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Old 12-10-2011, 05:47 PM  
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Ryan Braun tests positive for PED
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...enhancing-drug

He's facing a 50 game suspension.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:52 PM   #31
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I have absolutely no problem with baseball players using PEDs. Never have. Makes the games more entertaining and the players play at a higher level.
Its also dangerous, especially in the levels used. So you're essentially telling players they have to put their lives on the line to keep up. Baseball is a sport that deals heavily in records. PEDs make the record books meaningless, in essense making baseball meaningless. To me pitching duels can be exciting. I don't like too much offense. The new rules in football make me remember a time when defense was exciting.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:54 PM   #32
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:55 PM   #33
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Its also dangerous, especially in the levels used. So you're essentially telling players they have to put their lives on the line to keep up. Baseball is a sport that deals heavily in records. PEDs make the record books meaningless, in essense making baseball meaningless. To me pitching duels can be exciting. I don't like too much offense. The new rules in football make me remember a time when defense was exciting.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:55 PM   #34
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:56 PM   #35
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From OTL: Source says Braun requested 2nd test. 2nd test not positive. Those close to RB believe difference will show 1st test was invalid.
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Old 12-10-2011, 07:22 PM   #39
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From OTL: Source says Braun requested 2nd test. 2nd test not positive. Those close to RB believe difference will show 1st test was invalid.
The first test was mistakenly swapped with Pujols' vile.
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I said athletes, not baseball players. Those arguments you cited are the ones that guys who get caught in any sport ALWAYS use.
Ahh, fair enough, I was only thinking about baseball. I wonder how often athletes around the world beat back a positive test. I think I read about some soccer player or maybe its some other sport beating a test by showing that he ate tainted meat and they decided it would be unfair to punish him for that. Other than that? probably never.
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Ahh, fair enough, I was only thinking about baseball. I wonder how often athletes around the world beat back a positive test. I think I read about some soccer player or maybe its some other sport beating a test by showing that he ate tainted meat and they decided it would be unfair to punish him for that. Other than that? probably never.
Yeah. And occasionally there's a mistake made by the testers (which almost everybody tries to argue), but it's rare.
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Yeah. And occasionally there's a mistake made by the testers (which almost everybody tries to argue), but it's rare.
If I read the article correctly, his urine was tested twice. It's highly unlikely 2 different labs made the same mistake.
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