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Old 12-14-2011, 12:55 AM  
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Opportunity exists for Hunt to be more hands-on with Chiefs

And that's why I think Clark is cowing Pioli now...

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/13...xists-for.html

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Clark Hunt is heated. He wonít say this, of course, not publicly. Admitting emotion or talking about feelings isnít his style.

But this is big, right now. The Chiefs are stumbling. His name is at the top of the company directory, his late fatherís legacy entwined in everything he does. These failings are dearly personal.

This is Clarkís team to operate, but in the big picture very much his father Lamarís franchise, and there is symbolism in the way people around the league usually refer to ďthe Hunt familyĒ instead of Clark.

General manager Scott Pioliís professional future rests with the man he hires to be the next head coach, but Hunt has something much more important involved, something much more precious:

His familyís name.

Hunt makes for an easy target, especially now, in no small part because heís decided not to respond to most criticism and because his team ó the one thing Kansas City cares about collectively more than perhaps anything else ó is losing.

Winning heals most wounds, but at the moment there is a disconnect between fan and franchise that is alarming on a few levels. For the Chiefsí success and business interests, sure, but also for the man who in many ways was bred and raised to take over the franchise his father founded.

The criticisms of Hunt are not all fair, particularly the ones about him being the leagueís chintziest owner. The Chiefs committed about $100 million in guaranteed money in the last 12 months. The remaining cap space is more a product of the teamís youth and Pioliís vision than Huntís demands.

Besides, the link between spending and winning in the NFL is flimsy at best.

Heís actually been, despite the current view, most of what an owner should be. Three years ago, he hired the industryís top GM candidate and trusted that manís judgment to run the team without much interference. There is no evidence to suggest Hunt has held Pioli back.

At least from that perspective, Hunt is so far wearing rotten results born of sound decisions.

But right now, today, none of that matters as much as the fact Hunt isnít much liked by the fans who support his team.

Huntís leadership is different from his fatherís. He is more ruthless than patient, more focused on results than effort, more guarded than gregarious. But his polish masks a passion for winning that best comes out in private or one-on-one conversations.

All of which means that Hunt ó an accomplished man outside the benefits of his last name ó is losing at the one thing he most wants to win.

In the three years since firing Carl Peterson and beginning to shape the Chiefs in his own image, Hunt has been something like a personification of the franchise: young, aggressive and eager to prove worthiness.

Hunt is fiercely private and by nature quiet. Even in his business dealings, he tends to speak rarely. An NFL lawyer once told The Star that Hunt has ďa listen-to-talk ratio of probably 10 to 1.Ē

In that way, the Chiefsí well-known secretive nature is as much a product of Huntís desires as Pioliís, so the ownerís motivations and goals are hard to define beyond the very broad.

But hereís what we know: The things that got the Chiefs to this point clearly havenít worked, so if Hunt is as smart and caring as he is said to be, then the franchiseís operating procedures are about to change.

The details of that are hazy, by design. But even if Hunt is trusting and empowering the people he hires, the logical move would be for him to exert more influence in personnel matters, especially with the new head coach.

This is a difficult thing to navigate. Pioli knows more football than Hunt, of course, and in any job a micromanaging boss makes for an unproductive environment. But Hunt has already shown that itís in his nature to insert himself in certain ways that his father never would have, so he should be comfortable providing more guidance than perhaps heís done in the past.

This is hindsight, but someone who intimately knew the world views of Pioli and Haley could have predicted conflicts.

Hunt should and will ultimately bow to Pioliís football acumen as long as heís still the GM, but Hunt can also provide more of a 30,000-foot view to help. That couldíve been helpful three years ago, for instance.

In Huntís championship dreams, when the Chiefs are so good he is lifting the trophy with his fatherís name on it, Pioli is the teamís brains and the head coach its voice.

But maybe something is still missing. Maybe Hunt needs to be the teamís heart. Now would be a good time to show more of it.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:20 AM   #2
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you post some of the biggest bullshit i've ever heard of
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:24 AM   #3
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Did you sign up just to tell him this?

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Old 12-14-2011, 01:27 AM   #4
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:28 AM   #5
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He posted an article from the Star. Take it up with the editor if you don't like it.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:29 AM   #6
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:33 AM   #7
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I would love to see Cuban level involvement with the Chiefs. Right now this club has no face to put to it. Clark could be it.

I want this:



to say 2012 - Clark Hunt

/I don't think he will wink tho
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:39 AM   #8
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Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:43 AM   #9
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Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.
Almost every player who has signed a contract with the Mavericks loves Mark Cuban.

He took a dead franchise and turned it into an awesome franchise, pissed off the league and still won a championship.

Unfortunately Cuban blows money left and right and I don't think Clark will ever do that.
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Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.
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In the 20 years before Cuban bought the team, the Mavs had a winning percentage of 40%, and playoff record of 21Ė32.[51][52] In the ten years following, the team won 69% of their regular season games and reached the playoffs in each of those seasons. The Mavs playoff record with Cuban is 49 wins and 57 losses, including their first trip to the NBA Finals in 2006, where they lost to the Miami Heat.[53] On June 12, 2011, the Dallas Mavericks defeated the Miami Heat to win the NBA Finals.
Yeah... dude sucks.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:46 AM   #11
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Clark's problem is he has to listen to coaches and create an environment where someone could question a Pioli decision.
I believe Haley wanted to draft a qb and didn't want capt checkdown .When you first start is the only time you can justify a bad record that is when you get your young qb.
Everyone does that it seems when starting over except us.We should have blown away Det with an offer to get the first pick.I actually dreamed of that happening because it wasn't Carl who would never draft a qb.
What Clark better learn is he should use his 10-1 listening ratio on his head coach who should know football better than anyone he employs. He seemed to listen to herm but not haley. Bad choice there.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:46 AM   #12
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I wish Cuban was given a fair opportunity to buy the Cubs.

I would kill for an owner with his passion to win.

I would say I'd like for the Hunt family to sell the Chiefs and him make a bid, but then he'd probably move the team and I'd have to switch to a more local team like the Rams, ugh.....
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:49 AM   #13
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Hey tards, this thread is about Clark Hunt, not some loser coach in the NBA.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:50 AM   #14
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Yeah... dude sucks.
Never said he sucked, I just said he was overrated. Like I said I would rather have Rooney type ownership.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:51 AM   #15
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Never said he sucked, I just said he was overrated. Like I said I would rather have Rooney type ownership.
What makes Rooney better?
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