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Old 12-19-2011, 09:54 AM  
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The playcalling difference...

The difference in playcalling yesterday compared to the entire season if not the last 3 seasons was just ****ing mind bottling! Not 1,2,3, but 4 screens in one game? TE's being hit over the middle for more than 3 yards? No Dex up the middle for -2?

Ok, so, was this really because of Orton who had practiced really all of one week? Or was this because Haley was not there to chain down Muir on the playcalling?

Don't get me wrong, I am not here to sell Muir as a good OC. But JFC...we were a totally different team all the way around? How does this happen in less than a week? How does a team that couldn't get a first down to save their life suddenly go to punting onl twice the entire game with 0 turnovers and 0 sacks?

Obviously Orton brings a lot to that situation but it was the non-passing plays that stuck out the most. Particularly the lack of running Mighty Mouse 1.5 up the middle constantly for not.

I think Haley was a damper on this offense. When Muir and Zorn can take the same roster of backups and retirees with a QB that has been practing for all of a few days and turnout the performance we saw against The Pack then yu have to say that either Orton was football God's gift to the Chiefs or Muir and Zorn were finally able to call an offense that would actually produce.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:58 AM   #2
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RAC himself said they didn't do anything much different.

They've run screens for the better part of 2.5 years, Cassel just can't execute them.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:00 AM   #3
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:00 AM   #4
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RAC himself said they didn't do anything much different.

They've run screens for the better part of 2.5 years, Cassel just can't execute them.
I guess so. But even when Cassel did it seemed the blocking was never there.

Just 3 points of note that makes me think Haley was the wet rag on the offense..

1. Palko inactive
2. Dex used sparingly and not as a power runner
3. The increased use of McClain
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:01 AM   #5
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Playcalling was better except for one series where they went ultraconservative.

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Old 12-19-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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The difference in playcalling yesterday compared to the entire season if not the last 3 seasons was just ****ing mind bottling! Not 1,2,3, but 4 screens in one game? TE's being hit over the middle for more than 3 yards? No Dex up the middle for -2?
Genuinely trying to be helpful here, because I know I'd hate to run around saying the wrong thing... but I'm pretty sure you mean "mind boggling," not mind "bottling." I'm fairly certain no one's trying to bottle your brain.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:02 AM   #7
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Genuinely trying to be helpful here, because I know I'd hate to run around saying the wrong thing... but I'm pretty sure you mean "mind boggling," not mind "bottling." I'm fairly certain no one's trying to bottle your brain.
No, I meant "mind bottling". It's from a Will Ferrel movie you obviously haven't seen.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:03 AM   #8
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No, I meant "mind bottling". It's from a Will Ferrel movie you obviously haven't seen.
Ah, that would explain it. I thought you were going all "for all intensive purposes" on us.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:04 AM   #9
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I guess so. But even when Cassel did it seemed the blocking was never there.

Just 3 points of note that makes me think Haley was the wet rag on the offense..

1. Palko inactive
2. Dex used sparingly and not as a power runner
3. The increased use of McClain
1. Legitimate.
2. Dex ran 2 delay draws straight up the middle, same as every other week.
3. The Chiefs have run those types of screens all year. They ran that one in the gold zone against Minnesota and Cassel never even looked to McClain's side of the field. He ended up grounding the ball.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:04 AM   #10
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What is mind bottling is that people think there was a huge difference in play calling. That's whats mind bottling I tell you.

That and mind bottling is kind of mind bottling.
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Ah, that would explain it. I thought you were going all "for all intensive purposes" on us.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:05 AM   #12
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1 different player threw the ball.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:05 AM   #13
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1. Legitimate.
2. Dex ran 2 delay draws straight up the middle, same as every other week.
3. The Chiefs have run those types of screens all year. They ran that one in the gold zone against Minnesota and Cassel never even looked to McClain's side of the field. He ended up grounding the ball.
Yeah Dex rana couple draws but we saw him used far less in the running game than we have been. And I don't think we have ran dick for screens. I know we have tried a few here and there but nothing like we saw yesterday.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:07 AM   #15
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And I don't think we have ran dick for screens. I know we have tried a few here and there but nothing like we saw yesterday.
Because they don't work with Cassel under center. He can't sell them because they require an extreme amount of patience under pressure.
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