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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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Old 05-16-2012, 12:59 PM   #2776
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An offer like that won't get you crap.
Giavotella/Crow/Cuthbert/Odoreasy could bring a decent return. Slide Montgomery in for Giavotella or tweak it how you want but there could be something had out of our prospects without giving up the premier talent we have.

I'm not talking King Felix, I'm talking about a solid 2-3 guy. The ace is going to have to be developed or signed in FA
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:15 PM   #2777
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Giavotella/Crow/Cuthbert/Odoreasy could bring a decent return. Slide Montgomery in for Giavotella or tweak it how you want but there could be something had out of our prospects without giving up the premier talent we have.

I'm not talking King Felix, I'm talking about a solid 2-3 guy. The ace is going to have to be developed or signed in FA
That strikes as a lot to give up for a 2-3 guy.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:20 PM   #2778
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...Oh This is a "Repository" thread, my bad!

It's great that the Royals won the last two against the Rangers, I hope their win streak continues.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:47 PM   #2779
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That strikes as a lot to give up for a 2-3 guy.
I know it does, but i doubt you can get a premier pitcher for that. Maybe a bad #1- #2 is a better target. For example, what would you call Gio Gonzalez? I put him in that 2-3 range.
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I know it does, but i doubt you can get a premier pitcher for that. Maybe a bad #1- #2 is a better target. For example, what would you call Gio Gonzalez? I put him in that 2-3 range.
Gio's a good 2-3 guy I agree. I guess the inclusion of Odorizzi made me pause because he could well be just the kind of guy we need at that same position.
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I'd move Starling for a great return.
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Odorizzi is our #2 prospect, right?

The talk is that he could be an ace, and he's on track to be up next season. Id be hesitant to package him with some other guys for anything less than an ace.
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Odorizzi is our #2 prospect, right?

The talk is that he could be an ace, and he's on track to be up next season. Id be hesitant to package him with some other guys for anything less than an ace.
Agreed. He's ALMOST untouchable in my eyes.
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Agreed. He's ALMOST untouchable in my eyes.
No such thing as a pitching prospect.

Our love for prospects has reached a ridiculous level. If I can trade Starling for a proven #2 (dare we dream more...) right now? I make that trade five minutes ago.
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Problem with that idea is no big time free agent wants to come to KC(or maybe Glass doesn't want to pay, who knows). You pretty much have to trade for one if you want one.
They will once this team wins. Not that this will happen, but if this team can get to 2nd place in the Central. Many quality pitchers will be much more willing to come here because they know this team is on the up and up with their young talent. In the past, stars look at the roster and see nobody that will be here for very long and think it's a black hole.
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Odorizzi is our #2 prospect, right?

The talk is that he could be an ace, and he's on track to be up next season. Id be hesitant to package him with some other guys for anything less than an ace.
Unfortunately a prospect with ace upside is a long way from being an ace. That being said I would have no problem keeping odorizzi out of a deal if possible.


A lot of this hypothetical thinking also depends on what the royals do in free agency and how the pitchers in the system progress this year. If you go out and sign 2 guys (lets say anibal sanchez and shawn marcum) then maybe it is worth going after that true ace.
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Giavotella/Crow/Cuthbert/Odoreasy could bring a decent return. Slide Montgomery in for Giavotella or tweak it how you want but there could be something had out of our prospects without giving up the premier talent we have.

I'm not talking King Felix, I'm talking about a solid 2-3 guy. The ace is going to have to be developed or signed in FA
if you feel that way why would you move odoreasy? he is the guy who projects as a 1.
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No such thing as a pitching prospect.

Our love for prospects has reached a ridiculous level. If I can trade Starling for a proven #2 (dare we dream more...) right now? I make that trade five minutes ago.
I understand what you're saying. I'll just respectfully disagree. We need pitching in the worst way... duh. Giving up our best minor league pitcher isn't an option to me when this team probably isn't ready to win just yet anyway. I understand improving the team now and I'm all for it. I just also want to protect the future as much as possible too.
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