Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
alnorth alnorth is offline
MVP
 
alnorth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowania
Casino cash: $12397917
2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

Quote:
If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

Last edited by alnorth; 06-23-2012 at 10:54 PM..
Posts: 25,465
alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #3796
ChiTown ChiTown is offline
Stroking to Andy's Man Boobs
 
ChiTown's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Flatlands of Kansas
Casino cash: $16432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus View Post
This is absolutely true.
fyp
__________________
Posts: 16,732
ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.ChiTown has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 02:37 PM   #3797
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $80293
General consensus on Perez seems to be:

Floor: average offensive catcher (.260/.300 OBP/.400 SLG) with great defense

Ceiling: above-average offensive catcher (.300/.340/.500 SLG) with great defense

I'd guess he falls somewhere in between: .280/.320/.450, with great defense. That's all-star level, no doubt.

He's a hard guy to scout, considering his track record. He has been EXTREMELY young at each level his entire career. He didn't hit much at all until last season. It's either a matter of natural talent finally clicking into place as he matured, or him playing/hitting a bit above his head last year.

Going to be fun to see what he really is, that's for damn sure.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 7,559
duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.duncan_idaho 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #3798
DeezNutz DeezNutz is offline
PermaBanned
 
DeezNutz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jouissance
Casino cash: $28509
I wasn't expecting his level of impact defensively last year. No question that he reminded me of Pudge in his glory (read: steroid) years.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by badgirl View Post
If you met me in person and didn't know who I was you would never guess it was me.
Posts: 46,421
DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 02:49 PM   #3799
Zeke Zeke is offline
Oread Incarnate
 
Zeke's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Looking for my dog Toto
Casino cash: $978374
Watching the circus that is our current catching corp, makes me long for his abilities behind the plate... whether he hits .300 or .050.
__________________
Hi.
Posts: 3,009
Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Zeke Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 03:02 PM   #3800
CaliforniaChief CaliforniaChief is offline
Stanley Cup Champions!
 
CaliforniaChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: So Cal
Casino cash: $7727189
The other aspect to Salvy is his ability to handle pitchers. I have no doubt that Hoch's resurgence last year was due in no small part to Salvy's ability to handle him.

I can't freaking wait to have him back. CAN'T WAIT.
__________________
"Chiefs fans arenít having it." -Jason Whitlock
Posts: 12,027
CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 03:09 PM   #3801
sedated sedated is offline
Like I woke up in Wonderland..
 
sedated's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: OPKS
Casino cash: $231233
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief View Post
I can't freaking wait to have him back. CAN'T WAIT.
...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlchiefs
Why can't more people be like sedated?
Posts: 15,056
sedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellisedated 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 03:11 PM   #3802
KCUnited KCUnited is offline
Armed and Using
 
KCUnited's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Harms Way
Casino cash: $125214
Courtesy of 610Sports, Francouer's 2012 splits:

Autographs Signed: 902
Babies Held: 12
Old Ladies Winked At: 47
Posts: 12,332
KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 03:44 PM   #3803
Shogun Shogun is offline
The White Skip Bayless
 
Shogun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe
Casino cash: $2977686
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCUnited View Post
Courtesy of 610Sports, Francouer's 2012 splits:

Autographs Signed: 902
Babies Held: 12
Old Ladies Winked At: 47
the only important intangibles, i look at. that Segment was great.
__________________
wow░░░░▌▒▒█░░░░░░░░▄▀▒▒▒▐
░░░░░░░▐▄▀▒▒▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▀▒▒▒▒▒▐
░░░░░▄▄▀▒░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒▒▄█▒▐
░░░▄▀▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀██▀▒▌
░░▐▒▒▒▄▄▒▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▄▒▒▌
░░▌░░▌█▀▒▒▒▒▒▄▀█▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒▐
░▐░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▌██▀▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀▄▌
░▌░▒▄██▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░░░░░░▒▒▒▒▌
▀▒▀▐▄█▄█▌▄░▀▒▒░░░░░░░░░░▒▒▒▐ such post

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHENZ A! View Post
I'm just saying there's all sorts of shit i could be doing! I could watch a movie, play a video game, rub one out, read a book, learn a foreign language, etc.. But i'm still watching the assholes because i love them, and I hate myself
- On watching the Royals.
Posts: 10,593
Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Shogun has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 04:50 PM   #3804
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Casino cash: $186200
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief View Post
The other aspect to Salvy is his ability to handle pitchers. I have no doubt that Hoch's resurgence last year was due in no small part to Salvy's ability to handle him.

I can't freaking wait to have him back. CAN'T WAIT.
The guy changes the game from behind the plate.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Saul 2014
Posts: 30,519
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:04 PM   #3805
Dr. Facebook Fever Dr. Facebook Fever is offline
stax of wax
 
Dr. Facebook Fever's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Casino cash: $7620
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Don't need a switch hitter off the bench when you can go with a career joke in OBP.
The palpable sarcasm in your posts always makes me chuckle. I of course agree Quintero should be saying so long..... I can't say I trust Yost/DM to choose him over what they may see as a "vet catcher for the young staff" behind Sal.
__________________

courtesy of BoneKrusher

"Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion."

Ernie Harwell
Posts: 34,877
Dr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:06 PM   #3806
Dr. Facebook Fever Dr. Facebook Fever is offline
stax of wax
 
Dr. Facebook Fever's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Casino cash: $7620
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief View Post
The other aspect to Salvy is his ability to handle pitchers. I have no doubt that Hoch's resurgence last year was due in no small part to Salvy's ability to handle him.

I can't freaking wait to have him back. CAN'T WAIT.
That's a good point and a surprising ability from such a young catcher.
__________________

courtesy of BoneKrusher

"Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion."

Ernie Harwell
Posts: 34,877
Dr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:12 PM   #3807
DeezNutz DeezNutz is offline
PermaBanned
 
DeezNutz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jouissance
Casino cash: $28509
First, I would love to pile on with the Perez love. However...the ideas that he "handles a staff well" or "calls a good game" are hyperbole. There's simply no evidence that any catcher affects a game in this capacity.

What Perez does do, though, is block and throw like a mother****er.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by badgirl View Post
If you met me in person and didn't know who I was you would never guess it was me.
Posts: 46,421
DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:20 PM   #3808
CaliforniaChief CaliforniaChief is offline
Stanley Cup Champions!
 
CaliforniaChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: So Cal
Casino cash: $7727189
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
First, I would love to pile on with the Perez love. However...the ideas that he "handles a staff well" or "calls a good game" are hyperbole. There's simply no evidence that any catcher affects a game in this capacity.

What Perez does do, though, is block and throw like a mother****er.
Royals pitchers did have a lower ERA under him than they did under any other catcher. Now how objective that is? I don't know. But I wouldn't say there is NO evidence.
__________________
"Chiefs fans arenít having it." -Jason Whitlock
Posts: 12,027
CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:20 PM   #3809
Dr. Facebook Fever Dr. Facebook Fever is offline
stax of wax
 
Dr. Facebook Fever's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Casino cash: $7620
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
First, I would love to pile on with the Perez love. However...the ideas that he "handles a staff well" or "calls a good game" are hyperbole. There's simply no evidence that any catcher affects a game in this capacity.

What Perez does do, though, is block and throw like a mother****er.
Hard evidence that a catcher "handles a staff well" or "calls a good game" may be tough to quantify but I do believe in it. I guess the best evidence is what comes from the pitchers and coaches. A lot of pitchers have and continue to use personal catchers, even if that guys isn't the normal starter, because they work well together and have a level of comfort/trust. It's pretty much the same thing I guess imo.
__________________

courtesy of BoneKrusher

"Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion."

Ernie Harwell
Posts: 34,877
Dr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDr. Facebook Fever 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2012, 05:28 PM   #3810
CaliforniaChief CaliforniaChief is offline
Stanley Cup Champions!
 
CaliforniaChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: So Cal
Casino cash: $7727189
From I-70baseball.com...

"Salvador Perez was called up by the Royals last August and started his first game at Catcher on August 10. He caught each of Hochevar’s last 7 starts of the season. During this stretch he threw 45 2/3 innings and gave up 22 runs for a 4.34 ERA. In the first start he gave up 5 runs, so if you take out that one, assuming he was getting acclimated to having a new catcher behind the plate, the ERA is lowered to 4.17. Now, while an ERA over 4.00 will not win Hochevar any Cy Young awards, Royals fans would undoubtedly be pleased if he could provide numbers like this on a consistent basis.

While it may be a stretch to try and make this correlation, it cannot be discounted that if Hochevar can experience some success once Salvador Perez returns, that he will be the one common denominator. It cannot be understated how important consistency at the Catcher position is to the success of a pitching staff. And while Royals fans have seen pitching coaches come and go, and starting pitchers displaying maddening levels of inconsistency, perhaps it is the game of musical chairs that the Royals have played at the Catcher position over the last several years that is most responsible for this. Time will tell. Perez is due back in a couple weeks. Hopefully he can help Hochevar “turn the corner” one more time.
__________________
"Chiefs fans arenít having it." -Jason Whitlock
Posts: 12,027
CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.CaliforniaChief has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.