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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

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Old 02-09-2012, 11:35 AM   #721
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couldn't agree more.

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my biggest complaint with davis on the radio, is that every hit ball, his voice acts like it's gonna be a hit: hit by billy butler AAaaaaaand ugh, gloved by the shortstop. welp, that's the ballgame......

i'm all for excitement. really. but every placed ball sounds the same in his voice.
The worst are the potential home runs that don't even reach the warning track.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #722
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:37 AM   #723
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Glad Francis got on with a team. Hope his continued rehab was good over the winter and he finds his way back on a major league roster. He had a few bad outings for the Royals, but burned a bunch of innings for them
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By Evan Drellich / MLB.com | 02/09/12 11:00 AM EST


The future success of every Major League team lies largely in its Minor League pipeline. With that in mind, MLB.com is looking at each team's farm system, from the Top 20 Prospects to under-the-radar types.

The years of building in Kansas City really began to pay off when Eric Hosmer and Mike Moustakas arrived in the Majors last season. The next step will be when some of the pitchers, like Mike Montgomery and Jake Odorizzi, who are Nos. 3 and 4 on MLB.com's Top 20 Royals Prospects list, make it to the top.

And then, with the later arrivals of outfielders Bubba Starling and Wil Myers, the team's two top-ranked prospects, the project should be nearing its final stages.

"We like a lot of the position players we have, but they're young," Royals assistant general manager for scouting and player development J.J. Picollo said. "The Montgomerys and the Odorizzis and [Will] Smith and [Chris] Dwyer and those guys, they're kind of the back end of that first set of guys we've seen go to the Major Leagues. If we can compete with that group that will go there, then hopefully the guys that we were just talking about, the Starlings and the [Ramon] Hernandezes, they kind of come to the forefront."


Starling, 19, was the team's top pick, No. 5 overall, in last year's Draft. He strained a quad in the fall and missed the final 10 days of instructional league, the last few as a precaution. His potential to be a terrific all-around player remains in full force as his professional career begins this season.

Myers, who's 21 and has already spent some time at Double-A, naturally seems closer to the big leagues than does Starling, with the caveat that Myers is only one year into playing the outfield after converting from catcher.

It wouldn't have surprised anyone if Montgomery made it to Kansas City last year, after he had a solid 2010 season at three Minor League levels. But he had a difficult 2011, going 5-11 with a 5.32 ERA at Triple-A Omaha, and learning from the experience will be a big help in his future. He still leads the pack as a potential ace.

"There were a lot of factors," Picollo said. "I think some of it, the expectation when we broke Spring Training was that he would probably be up by midseason. And I think in some way, he kind of pitched to just do OK. [He] didn't compete the way he normally does, and when he realized, 'You know what? I'm not really having success here,' I think he pressed a little bit, and then eventually it turned into some mechanical changes and things we had to start addressing that were pretty much in check at the end of Spring Training. So I think there was a little bit of a snowball; he never really got on track last year.

"I think he'll be fine. In the end, I think it's going to be a real good learning experience for him. He's a bright kid, pretty perceptive ... here's an experience to draw on that will eventually help him."

Odorizzi, a right-handed starter acquired in the Zack Greinke deal with Milwaukee a year ago, showed his strikeout ability last season with 157 in 147 innings -- with just 44 walks -- and that puts him on the cusp of the Majors.

No. 6 John Lamb, one of several southpaws on the list, along with Dwyer and Smith, is in the first third of his throwing program following Tommy John surgery in June. The plan, if all goes well, is to have Lamb get up on a mound close to late July, and have him pitch for rehab purposes as he prepares for a full 2013 season.

Dwyer, who's seventh on the list, has a plus-plus pitch in his curveball. He put up strong strikeout numbers at Double-A Northwest Arkansas: 126 in 141 1/3 innings. But he needs to better refine his command after walking 78.

Smith is at No. 15 and probably doesn't have front-end potential, but he's close to being a polished product. He went 13-9 with a 3.85 ERA at Double-A, striking out 108 and walking 45 in 161 1/3 innings.


Under the Radar

Outfielder Ramon Hernandez is a 24-year-old Cuban defector the Royals recently signed after evaluating him in the Dominican Republic.

"We had a chance to watch him play in games and we liked him," general manager Dayton Moore said. "Several other teams were trying to sign him as well. He's not a big high-profile guy, but he's had some success in the Cuban professional league. He's been in our academy, our scouts like him and [international scout] Rene Francisco felt we should sign him."

Predictions

Hitter of the Year -- Bubba Starling, OF
Starling's tools are second-to-none in the organization, and at the Class A level, polish can take a backseat to overwhelming raw ability. A product of Kansas, he was an All-State selection in three sports in high school.

Pitcher of the Year -- Mike Montgomery, LHP
Once a pro ballplayer struggles for the first time, that experience is ideally always there to draw on. Montgomery has been through it now, and he should be quick to learn from his mistakes. His stuff is still first-rate.

Evan Drellich is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @EvanDrellich. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:38 PM   #727
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The Royals have signed Gordon to a 1-year deal, avoiding arbitration. $4.775MM plus a possible $25K in incentives. (Royals filed 4.15, Gordon filed 5.45. Counting the incentives, they agreed exactly in the middle)

I assume they are still discussing a long-term deal, who knows if that will happen before the end of this season.
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Even though I think its a garbage rumor that I don't believe, I'll mention that Nate Bukaty says a source has told him that Gordon's camp asked for 6/$80MM.

I don't believe it. If the Royals did offer 4/30, that is a low offer. Not a lowball offer, but on the low side of reasonable. 4/35 or 4/40 would be a good fair deal.

6/80 is insane after just 1 good year and 2 arb years left to go. Thats what he might expect in free agency 3 years from now, if he's an all-star (but not an incredible player) for the next 2 years. I refuse to believe they asked for that (or if they did, its their starting point "yeah, right" highball offer in the negotiating room)
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If that's the case, he'll become a free agent or traded. I wouldn't pay him that at this point. No way in hell.
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Even though I think its a garbage rumor that I don't believe, I'll mention that Nate Bukaty says a source has told him that Gordon's camp asked for 6/$80MM.

I don't believe it. If the Royals did offer 4/30, that is a low offer. Not a lowball offer, but on the low side of reasonable. 4/35 or 4/40 would be a good fair deal.

6/80 is insane after just 1 good year and 2 arb years left to go. Thats what he might expect in free agency 3 years from now, if he's an all-star (but not an incredible player) for the next 2 years. I refuse to believe they asked for that (or if they did, its their starting point "yeah, right" highball offer in the negotiating room)
Earlier today, I was thinking that we should offer a four deal starting at $5 million and increasing by around 2.5 each year. 5, 7.5, 10, 15 would be four years and 37.5 with a cherry on the final year. Six for eighty is insane. That would add two years at over 21 per to the end of a fair deal.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...I2Q_story.html

Gordon says they wanted to get the one-year deal done first before focusing on the long-term deal.

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“I don’t know what I should make, what I shouldn’t make. I just go out there, practice hard, work hard, and the games take care of themselves,” said Gordon, who avoided arbitration Thursday by agreeing to a $4,775,000 contract for 2012.

“I don’t focus on any of the business side,” he added. “I’ll get the details, but I really don’t know what I’m doing, so I leave it up to them.”

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“I think they’ve made an offer or something like that. I think we both wanted to get the one year deal done and maybe move on from there,” Gordon said. “We got that done and hopefully we can move on from here. That’s really what we want to accomplish.”
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From these articles, it sounds like both sides want to get the deal done, although the length of time it's taken and the amounts thrown around make me a little suspicious that Gordon will try to test the market when his deal is up....
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