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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 09-25-2012, 01:56 PM   #7786
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I didn't say that. Was mentioned by Rany Jazerli on the radio this morning.
You didn't tag everything with #'s. He doesn't understand.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:01 PM   #7787
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Wow only Royal fans would think that.
Why do you have to be a raging douchebag in this thread?

The O's fluky success has gone to your head.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:08 PM   #7788
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Why do you have to be a raging douchebag in this thread?

The O's fluky success has gone to your head.
Nothing to do with the O's, Just saying that the radio guy is crazy if he thinks the royals could get Price for Hosmer.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:10 PM   #7789
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Nothing to do with the O's, Just saying that the radio guy is crazy if he thinks the royals could get Price for Hosmer.
Thats what Buster Olney thought as well.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:18 PM   #7790
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Rany said this morning on the radio that he thinks the following package would net David Price from the Rays:

Eric Hosmer (gets it most of the way there on his own) +
Jason Adam (type/level) + Robinson Yambati/Sugar Ray Marimon type

I would do that trade. It would be hard to give up Hos, but worth it...

I love Hosmer, but David Price is controlled almost as long (FA in 2016 vs. FA in 2017). There's also the possibility of negotiating an extension that buys out a few FA years in return for more up front.
Hosmer did not get a full year of service time in 2011. He's not a free agent until 2018, so we're talking 2 extra years of control. Those 2 extra years add value to Hosmer compared to David Price, its just a shame he struggled this season.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:40 PM   #7791
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Nothing to do with the O's, Just saying that the radio guy is crazy if he thinks the royals could get Price for Hosmer.
It's not a straight-up trade. That would be silly. It would include at least two lower-level prospects of quality grade (one B and one C+) and possibly some more.

Just listened to the podcast. Rany (who is not just a radio guy - he's got ties to Baseball Prospectus, good contacts in the industry, does a show with Joe Sheehan and writes for Grantland) mentioned Eric Hosmer as the main starting point ("gets you most of the way there"). That means you're not sacrificing Myers or Odorizzi in the deal.

If it took Hosmer, Ventura and Adam, that's still something the Royals look at. The Royals have enough depth to up the price from the starting point Rany mentioned (and I started the discussion on).

Perception of Hosmer in the industry is still that he's going to be a star. His stock with baseball people is not nearly as downtrodden as stock with fans. 5 years of control of Hosmer (who will be cheap for at least two of them) vs. three years of expensive control for Price is a big value for the Rays.

It's a deal that makes quite a bit of sense for both sides.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:49 PM   #7792
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Perception of Hosmer in the industry is still that he's going to be a star. His stock with baseball people is not nearly as downtrodden as stock with fans. 5 years of control of Hosmer (who will be cheap for at least two of them) vs. three years of expensive control for Price is a big value for the Rays.

It's a deal that makes quite a bit of sense for both sides.
Especially with their ability to churn out pitchers, but struggle for offense.

Of course, had we not swept the White Sox the final weekend that draft year, Price would already be in a Royals uniform and Moose would be elsewhere.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:56 PM   #7793
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It's not a straight-up trade. That would be silly. It would include at least two lower-level prospects of quality grade (one B and one C+) and possibly some more.

Just listened to the podcast. Rany (who is not just a radio guy - he's got ties to Baseball Prospectus, good contacts in the industry, does a show with Joe Sheehan and writes for Grantland) mentioned Eric Hosmer as the main starting point ("gets you most of the way there"). That means you're not sacrificing Myers or Odorizzi in the deal.

If it took Hosmer, Ventura and Adam, that's still something the Royals look at. The Royals have enough depth to up the price from the starting point Rany mentioned (and I started the discussion on).

Perception of Hosmer in the industry is still that he's going to be a star. His stock with baseball people is not nearly as downtrodden as stock with fans. 5 years of control of Hosmer (who will be cheap for at least two of them) vs. three years of expensive control for Price is a big value for the Rays.

It's a deal that makes quite a bit of sense for both sides.
Dude if the Rays did put Price on the Market (which they wont) Every team in MLB will be in on him which means someone is gonna OVERPAY BIG TIME. Now i could see a Hosmer for Shields trade in the Off season.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:57 PM   #7794
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Dude if the Rays did put Price on the Market (which they wont) Every team in MLB will be in on him which means someone is gonna OVERPAY BIG TIME. Now i could see a Hosmer for Shields trade in the Off season.
And?

Royals have more chips than most teams.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:02 PM   #7795
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And?

Royals have more chips than most teams.
Price is under team control till 2016 he's going no where.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:03 PM   #7796
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Price is under team control till 2016 he's going no where.
What point are you trying to argue?
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:04 PM   #7797
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:07 PM   #7798
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What point are you trying to argue?
He has no idea. He's an O's fan on a Playoff high. I can only imagine the euphoria he must be experiencing right now. We must try and forgive his babbling idiocy.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:07 PM   #7799
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Dude if the Rays did put Price on the Market (which they wont) Every team in MLB will be in on him which means someone is gonna OVERPAY BIG TIME. Now i could see a Hosmer for Shields trade in the Off season.
Price going on the market is because he's about get expensive as hell. The Rays can't afford (apparently) to keep him. It is actually cheaper for them to keep Shields than to keep Price.

Yes, every team in MLB will be interested in him. But not every team in MLB has a first-baseball as highly regarded as Eric Hosmer with five years of control remaining on his contract to start the negotiations with. Hosmer is also incredibly cost-effective over that time frame, which is attractive to the Rays.

This is the Rays' area of greatest need, and they have NO help on the way any time soon.

That's why the deal makes sense.

Hosmer for Shields is the type of deal that gets General Managers fired. Won't happen, and will not happen. The only way Hosmer, Moustakas or Myers would be involved in a trade is for a legitimate TOR starter with at least 3 years of control.

Shields doesn't fit the bill.
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