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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:01 AM   #9271
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Holland would be a very nice get. Affordable and under team control for 5 years.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:01 AM   #9272
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In the proposed 4 way:

Royals get Holland, give up Adam and Colon
Rangers get Upton, give up Holland and Olt
Indians get Olt and Adam?, give up Cabrerra
D-Backs get Cabrerra and Colon?, give up Upton
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:02 AM   #9273
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:04 AM   #9274
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One of the teams involved in the four-team Ariz-Cle deal is the Kansas City Royals. Not sure about the form yet.
Oh God, missed this while looking something else up.

I'm frightened, we always lose 3-way trades. I shudder to think what'll happen to us in a 4-way trade.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:05 AM   #9275
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In the proposed 4 way:

Royals get Holland, give up Adam and Colon
Rangers get Upton, give up Holland and Olt
Indians get Olt and Adam?, give up Cabrerra
D-Backs get Cabrerra and Colon?, give up Upton
I'll take it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:06 AM   #9276
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In the proposed 4 way:

Royals get Holland, give up Adam and Colon
Rangers get Upton, give up Holland and Olt
Indians get Olt and Adam?, give up Cabrerra
D-Backs get Cabrerra and Colon?, give up Upton
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:06 AM   #9277
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so, how good is derek holland?
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #9278
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #9279
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so, how good is derek holland?
He's a power lefty with sick stuff who would be under team control for five years. His last years ERA of 4.67 is misleading due to his starts in the Rangers' hitting paradise.

This would be a huge, huge get for the Royals.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #9281
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Not surprising, but Holland's away splits are significantly better than his home.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #9282
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so, how good is derek holland?
Splits last year

By Breakdown ERA W L SV SVO GP GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
Home 5.55 6 4 0 0 16 15 0 94.0 93 60 58 18 28 84 .256
Away 3.65 6 3 0 0 13 12 0 81.1 69 40 33 14 24 61 .228
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:19 AM   #9283
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so, how good is derek holland?
Really good. He's got 3 years till free agency.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:20 AM   #9284
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That would be a great deal for the Royals.

Holland is a very very talented young pitcher that would immediately be the best pitcher on your staff. He's a power lefty that can show up with shutdown stuff on any given night.

Hell, the Rangers even extended him under a fairly team friendly deal through 2016 w/ a reasonable club option in 2017. That would be an excellent get for KC. I'm honestly a little puzzled why the Rangers would give him up.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:23 AM   #9285
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If you can get Holland for two of our non-top 5 prospects, you do it in a heartbeat. Not only that, but I'd think that might leave money to sign a Marcum/McCarthy type to fill things out. Yes please.
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