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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:49 PM   #10081
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Rany's complete analysis of this trade:

This Sucks.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:50 PM   #10082
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What I expect to happen for this trade:

James Shields is a 3-4 WAR pitcher for KC for two years (3.50-3.75 ERA, 200 IP, 180K), walks at the end of this deal, gets a qualifying offer, and ends up resulting in a comp pick for KC.

Wade Davis continues to be underwhelming when tried as a starter and ends up being an effective reliever for KC.

The PTBNL is not anyone exciting.

Wil Myers posts 3-4 30 HR seasons in the next 6 years as a full-timer starter for Tampa and makes the All-Star team 4 times.

Mike Montgomery figures it out and becomes a strong member of the Rays rotation by 2014.

Pat Leonard continues to show great power and is a top 50 prospect by the time Shields walks.

Jake Odorizzi makes more effective starts over the course of the Davis/Odorizzi contracts than Davis does.

No, here's the worst part:

Royals are 30 games out this July, and they trade Shields in a salary dump.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:51 PM   #10084
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What I expect to happen for this trade:

James Shields is a 3-4 WAR pitcher for KC for two years (3.50-3.75 ERA, 200 IP, 180K), walks at the end of this deal, gets a qualifying offer, and ends up resulting in a comp pick for KC.

Wade Davis continues to be underwhelming when tried as a starter and ends up being an effective reliever for KC.

The PTBNL is not anyone exciting.

Wil Myers posts 3-4 30 HR seasons in the next 6 years as a full-timer starter for Tampa and makes the All-Star team 4 times.

Mike Montgomery figures it out and becomes a strong member of the Rays rotation by 2014.

Pat Leonard continues to show great power and is a top 50 prospect by the time Shields walks.

Jake Odorizzi makes more effective starts over the course of the Davis/Odorizzi contracts than Davis does.
I had to laugh at one of Rany's grief-laden tweets. He mentioned not being too worried about the loss of Odo because he's a #3 starter with limited upside.

My immediate thought: Then what the **** is Davis? . Only DM.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:51 PM   #10085
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #10086
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #10087
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #10088
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As a GM, you have to really work to make that happen. Maybe KC can get a two for one on pink slips when Pioli and DM are let go.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:53 PM   #10089
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More from BG: the Royals F.O fear Myers is a bat w/out pop like a Nick Markakis, why they decided to trade him
And here's why I know the Royals are stupid.

The problem with Markakis has never really been his raw power - it's been his approach. Markakis takes a very patient and line-drive oriented approach that sacrifices power in favor of working counts and trying to make contact. It creates more walks and fewer Ks for him, at the expense of his power.

Myers actually strikes out far more than Markakis did in the minors (and will in the majors) precisely because he's willing to give up the Ks in favor of a more aggressive approach at the plate.

If Myers doesn't hit for power, it will be because he doesn't hit at all. He'd have to be a complete bust to not be a 25-30 HR hitter. His strength, approach and swing plane essentially demand it. He's like Moustakas in that regard - it will be virtually impossible for him to be a decent hitter without hitting for some power.

If the Royals are honestly worried that Wil Myers will be the next Markakis, I'm absolutely convinced they know nothing about this game.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:54 PM   #10093
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