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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 10-17-2012, 09:44 PM   #1831
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Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that Carlos Beltran's left knee strain is not considered serious and he could be back in the lineup Thursday.

Beltran was injured while trying to beat out a double-play ball in the first inning of Wednesday's contest. The veteran outfielder has obviously had plenty of knee issues in the past, but evidently this is a minor one. Matt Carpenter hit a two-run homer after taking over for Beltran Wednesday and would start Thursday if it turns out that Beltran can't go.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:46 PM   #1832
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Winner winner boys!
We beat their best pitcher. The next two games San Fran is starting pitchers that have no business starting a playoff game. Maybe they will pitch lights out instead of how they pitched in the season, but I like our chances of winning it in St. Louis.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:47 PM   #1833
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Sure would be nice if they could close it out at home. Do not want to go back to SF.
yeah totally agree. However, if that is what happens I will take some consolation that they will have to use linecum and he will be unavailable then.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #1834
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Mini Carpenter player of the game.
Agree, although a ton of credit to Lohse. He flat out battled out of a lot of tough situations, although his walks helped him get in those situations. Thankfully, he is not Garcia when the going gets tough.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #1835
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We beat their best pitcher. The next two games San Fran is starting pitchers that have no business starting a playoff game. Maybe they will pitch lights out instead of how they pitched in the season, but I like our chances of winning it in St. Louis.
I told a couple people today that if we beat Cain we have a huge chance, he is their guy. Beat him here and we can do anything and should win the series.
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We beat their best pitcher. The next two games San Fran is starting pitchers that have no business starting a playoff game. Maybe they will pitch lights out instead of how they pitched in the season, but I like our chances of winning it in St. Louis.
It shall be interesting to see what the Cards do for game 5 for starting pitcher. Lynn really hit the wall in his last start, so I would not be surprised if Joe Kelly started, or at minimum Lynn started with a VERY short leash.
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Lincecum is pretty good. Don't overlook that guy.


Hopefully Waino is better tomorrow.
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We beat their best pitcher. The next two games San Fran is starting pitchers that have no business starting a playoff game. Maybe they will pitch lights out instead of how they pitched in the season, but I like our chances of winning it in St. Louis.
I'm more concerned about our pitchers than theirs. Lohse is the only starter I trust right now, and he dodged a ton of bullets tonight.
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Lincecum is pretty good. Don't overlook that guy.


Hopefully Waino is better tomorrow.
I had Timmy in my FBB league this year and he was ****ing atrocious. Don't know what his deal was this year but I would put $ on Waino being better.

I think he was absolutely horrid on the road too.
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Agree, although a ton of credit to Lohse. He flat out battled out of a lot of tough situations, although his walks helped him get in those situations. Thankfully, he is not Garcia when the going gets tough.
I thought Lohse was squeezed, had a tight strike zone. Not all walks were his fault. Seems to have been a theme the first 3 games.
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Lincecum and Zito the next 2 starters? Anything can happen but you have to like that.
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No one has really talked about it, but when Rosenthal got the ground ball, Kozma made a really good play to get the out at second.
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No one has really talked about it, but when Rosenthal got the ground ball, Kozma made a really good play to get the out at second.
As did descalso on the pence dp ball.
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