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Old 01-18-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Keystone pipeline to be killed today, China will be thrilled, gas will be over $4 by summer. Way to go Obama.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:56 AM   #2
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He knows what's best for us and apparently that involves deindustrialization as well as denuclearization. Trust him. We'll have some really nice prairie on which to scratch out our subsistence.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:58 AM   #3
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Keystone pipeline to be killed today, China will be thrilled, gas will be over $4 by summer. Way to go Obama.
That and demanding a war with Iran will put gas at $5-6/gal by the end of the year.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:01 AM   #4
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If the electorate are somehow stupid enough to put obama in office for a 2nd term they deserve everything they get. hussein obama is making President Bush look good.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:03 AM   #5
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At least the republicans managed to force him to make a decision on this during an election year, rather than rely on bureaucratic stalling until 2013. Give them credit for that, this is now a campaign issue.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #6
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My buddy is fairly high up at Quanta Services in Houston, the folks that have kinda bankrolled and pushed this project. He's been central to the development of it. Obama's quasi-killed this thing a couple of times but the hope was that he'd eventually come around on it w/ the election cycle approaching.

Needless to say, he has countless man-hours and career capital in this thing.

I....uh....think I'll leave him alone today.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #7
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If the electorate are somehow stupid enough to put obama in office for a 2nd term they deserve everything they get. This asshole is making President Bush look good.
If the economy continues to improve, Obama promises to get out of Afghanistan ASAP, and Romney pounds the drums of war vs Iran (or 2 out of 3), this issue is not going to matter.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:07 AM   #8
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If the economy continues to improve, Obama promises to get out of Afghanistan ASAP, and Romney pounds the drums of war vs Iran (or 2 out of 3), this issue is not going to matter.
That depends on whether there are enough voter ignorant enough to believe the economy is improving. Our pilot has crashed our jet into a mountain and you want to give him credit for finding a piece of luggage that wasn't burned in the wreck?
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:16 AM   #9
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That depends on whether there are enough voter ignorant enough to believe the economy is improving. Our pilot has crashed our jet into a mountain and you want to give him credit for finding a piece of luggage that wasn't burned in the wreck?
1) People do not blame him for the crash in the first place. This is Bush's wreckage. To the extent that Obama should have any blame, the only valid argument is the one Romney's attempting, which is: "yes, you didn't cause this, but you are failing to pull us out of it"

2) The economy is improving. Not very quickly, but it is. It remains to be seen whether this recovery will be too slow to save his presidency, or if he'll just manage to pull out of the stall before his plane hits the earth. I also think it would be fair to try to make the argument of: "well hell, the economy was never going to continue to fall for this long no matter what he did, it was going to recover at least a little bit at SOME point, its doing so now, weakly, IN SPITE of Obama, not because of him", but to say the economy is not recovering at all is simply incorrect.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:19 AM   #10
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1) People do not blame him for the crash in the first place. This is Bush's wreckage. To the extent that Obama should have any blame, the only valid argument is the one Romney's attempting, which is: "yes, you didn't cause this, but you are failing to pull us out of it"

2) The economy is improving. Not very quickly, but it is. It remains to be seen whether this recovery will be too slow to save his presidency, or if he'll just manage to pull out of the stall before his plane hits the earth. I also think it would be fair to try to make the argument of: "well hell, the economy was never going to continue to fall for this long no matter what he did, it was going to recover at least a little bit at SOME point, its doing so now, weakly, IN SPITE of Obama, not because of him", but to say the economy is not recovering at all is simply incorrect.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:19 AM   #11
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If the economy continues to improve, Obama promises to get out of Afghanistan ASAP, and Romney pounds the drums of war vs Iran (or 2 out of 3), this issue is not going to matter.
Yea, and unicorns wii shit Popsicles in August in your world.

$5 diesel will send inflation soaring and vacation will be out.and low and moderate income families will be hardest hit by this bullshit move.
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Uhhh...

The only people who blame Obama for the crash is that cross-eyed drooling retard Limbaugh and his army of dittoheads.
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The only people who blame Obama for the crash is that cross-eyed drooling retard Limbaugh and his army of dittoheads.
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Yea, and unicorns wii shit Popsicles in August in your world.

$5 diesel will send inflation soaring and vacation will be out.and low and moderate income families will be hardest hit by this bullshit move.
I think Clinton has proven that the economy trumps everything. Doesn't matter if Obama (or Clinton) deserves any credit for it whatsoever, if the economy is doing well enough, this pipeline issue won't save Romney.
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I think Clinton has proven that the economy trumps everything. Doesn't matter if Obama (or Clinton) deserves any credit for it whatsoever, if the economy is doing well enough, this pipeline issue won't save Romney.
The economy is not doing well. Period.
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