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Old 01-19-2012, 11:09 AM  
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Santorum "wins" Iowa Caucus

By 34 votes lol

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(CNN) -- Rick Santorum finished the Iowa Republican caucuses 34 votes ahead of Mitt Romney, but results from several precincts are missing and the full actual results may never be known, according to a final certified tally released Thursday by the Iowa GOP.

The new numbers show 29,839 votes for Santorum and 29,805 votes for Romney, according to the party.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:59 AM   #2
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I read that. Good for him. But it sucks for him that the Iowa benefit is already all used up.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:01 PM   #3
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I read that. Good for him. But it sucks for him that the Iowa benefit is already all used up.
It's always good to have an election and lose the votes and never really know who wins...

...and you all claim dems are incompentents.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:02 PM   #4
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It's always good to have an election and lose the votes and never really know who wins...

...and you all claim dems are incompentents.
Yeah, that is concerning. I haven't read/heard about what happened (other than the fact that votes were irretrievably lost from several locations). Have you?
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:02 PM   #5
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I read that. Good for him. But it sucks for him that the Iowa benefit is already all used up.
It won't help Santorum but this might hurt Romney
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:28 PM   #6
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Romney likely still won this, but we'll never know. (the story about the vote discrepancy a week or two ago, Santorum was told there was two of them in 2 precincts, one that the media reported that went his way, and one that no one reported that canceled out that discrepancy and still gave Romney a single-digit win)

What probably happened here in this story is that the phoned-in totals, aside from those two precincts that were off, were all phoned in more-or-less correctly, but then after the results were phoned in, 6 or 7 geriatric senile morons thought that was the end of it, and they threw the tally sheets away, not allowing their precincts to be certified.

We don't have trained election officials or party members running these caucuses, the people vote for who will run the caucus, and out of almost 2 thousand precincts, the people were bound to vote for a few dumbasses who wouldn't save the sheets and mail them in.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:30 PM   #7
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It won't help Santorum but this might hurt Romney
Hurt him how?
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:34 PM   #8
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Hurt him how?
take a little shine out of him being inevitable. Gingrich is now up in SC so if that holds instead of Romney winning 2 out of 3 he would be 1 out of 3
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:38 PM   #9
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Romney likely still won this, but we'll never know. (the story about the vote discrepancy a week or two ago, Santorum was told there was two of them in 2 precincts, one that the media reported that went his way, and one that no one reported that canceled out that discrepancy and still gave Romney a single-digit win)
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Iowa GOP Chairman Apparently Concedes He Owes Santorum An Apology

Tweets from journalists listening to an interview with GOP Iowa Chair Matt Strawn on local radio apparently show the official conceding that Rick Santorum is the winner and that he’s owed an apology:


pattibrown Patti Brown Matt Strawn of RPI just said on WHO Radio that he #Santorum did WIN ##IAcaucus and that he owes Santorum an appology. @IowaGOP @IowaGOPer

AlexNBCNews Alexandra Moe IA GOP Chairman Strawn on missing precints: Assuming that everything form 8 precincts stuck, it wouldn’t have changed the fact Santorum won
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:38 PM   #10
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take a little shine out of him being inevitable. Gingrich is now up in SC so if that holds instead of Romney winning 2 out of 3 he would be 1 out of 3
Still holding out hope your buffoon doesn't have to debate Romney, huh?
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:39 PM   #11
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Nope:
Yep.

he's the winner of the certified vote, only because several precincts, which apparently were slightly for Romney, couldn't be certified, likely because the idiots running those precincts didn't save the paperwork.

The certified result is crap.

edit: oh, just read that second tweet.

OK, well in that case, a lot of people failed in learning how to use a phone.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:54 PM   #12
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Doesn't matter anyway, because Romney still spanked him in Iowa's pledged delegates.

Actual votes don't matter directly, what directly matters is winning pledged delegates.

Whether Santorum won or lost the vote, Romney still beats him in delegates.
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:38 PM   #13
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Doesn't matter anyway, because Romney still spanked him in Iowa's pledged delegates.

Actual votes don't matter directly, what directly matters is winning pledged delegates.

Whether Santorum won or lost the vote, Romney still beats him in delegates.
The delegates are all unbound.
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:14 PM   #14
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"The Romney campaign is now calling Iowa a "virtual tie." The Santorum campaign, which blasted out an email Thursday with the subject "Santorum Wins Iowa!," hopes the media does not go along with the "tie" narrative.

"When Mitt Romney wins by eight, he wins," Gidley said. "When we win by 34, it's a virtual tie? Nice try."

Gidley then suggested a different narrative. "If we win by 34," he said, "it's a landslide.""
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:17 PM   #15
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The vote totals from the 8 precincts are actually known. The only thing that is missing is the official forms that would be used to certify the vote. Santorum got 81 votes out of those precincts, Romney got 46.
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