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Old 01-26-2012, 08:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 02-02-2012, 08:23 PM   #346
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The schedule the Chiefs played in 2010 was the easiest in the league.

Don't play this game.
I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:24 PM   #347
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I'm laughing because you didn't think this team was talented enough to make the playoffs without charles, berry.

Tell me, what spectacular plays did we run that made haley this genious?
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I'm laughing because you think there are genius plays to run behind Matt Cassel and Thomas Jones.

That was arguably one of the worst QB-RB tandems in the NFL.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:25 PM   #348
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Ok.

Let's fire every coach that has 2 bad games in 3 years.

The Giants should have fired Tom Coughlin multiple teams. He lost his team worse than Haley several times over his career.
2 in 3 years? Dude, for the ump- mother ****ing -teenth time...Haley got blown out 9 times in 2 1/2 years. That's 7 more than the 2 you keep talking about.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:26 PM   #349
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I'm laughing because you think there are genius plays to run behind Matt Cassel and Thomas Jones.

That was arguably one of the worst QB-RB tandems in the NFL.
Just a thought but maybe if Haley didn't have to have an orgy of coaches involved with every play call Cassel gets to the line with 15 secs or more and has time to read the defense as opposed to 5 secs and has to hurry just to get the ball snapped things might have been SLIGHTLY different?
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:26 PM   #350
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I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
What the **** are you talking about?

The Chiefs made the playoffs in 2010 because they had Jamaal Charles and an easy schedule. The defense was okay. The QB was shit.

The talent in 2010 wasn't good. For ANY coach. The healthy talent in 2011 was even worse.

We're not talking about Norv Turner undercoaching a talented team. We're talking about a coach being asked to coach a team that doesn't have much talent, particularly at the QB position.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:26 PM   #351
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I'm laughing because you think there are genius plays to run behind Matt Cassel and Thomas Jones.

That was arguably one of the worst QB-RB tandems in the NFL.
Well then what did haley do to make us a borderline playoff team when we had all this non talent? I didn't see him suiting up. So what was his secret?
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:28 PM   #352
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2 in 3 years? Dude, for the ump- mother ****ing -teenth time...Haley got blown out 9 times in 2 1/2 years. That's 7 more than the 2 you keep talking about.
You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:31 PM   #353
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Well then what did haley do to make us a borderline playoff team when we had all this non talent? I didn't see him suiting up. So what was his secret?
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The 2010 team more often than not won based on effort, not on talent. There is only so far you can take a team that doesn't have enough talent.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:31 PM   #354
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You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.
and crennel comes in and beats two playoff teams in three games. How many did vince lombardi reincarnate beat in his time here?
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:32 PM   #355
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The 2010 team more often than not won based on effort, not on talent. There is only so far you can take a team that doesn't have enough talent.
lol.
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What the **** are you talking about?

The Chiefs made the playoffs in 2010 because they had Jamaal Charles and an easy schedule. The defense was okay. The QB was shit.

The talent in 2010 wasn't good. For ANY coach. The healthy talent in 2011 was even worse.

We're not talking about Norv Turner undercoaching a talented team. We're talking about a coach being asked to coach a team that doesn't have much talent, particularly at the QB position.
The QB was shit? I am not big on Cassel but the dude did toss for 27 TD and 7 picks that year. That's hardly a shit performance.
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Just a thought but maybe if Haley didn't have to have an orgy of coaches involved with every play call Cassel gets to the line with 15 secs or more and has time to read the defense as opposed to 5 secs and has to hurry just to get the ball snapped things might have been SLIGHTLY different?
Yeah, that was a real cluster****. I don't know what happened there. More than a fair argument and looks horrible on Haley.

But I to this day still don't believe Haley was ever very happy that he had to run OC playcalls through Muir.
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Yeah, that was a real cluster****. I don't know what happened there. More than a fair argument and looks horrible on Haley.

But I to this day still don't believe Haley was ever very happy that he had to run OC playcalls through Muir.
Link to the last sentence please.
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The QB was shit? I am not big on Cassel but the dude did toss for 27 TD and 7 picks that year. That's hardly a shit performance.
I dont' care what his stats were. Matt Cassel was horrendous in 3rd down efficiency. Was horrendous in the first two quarters. Had maybe 1-2 games where he had any kind of decent performance in the 4th quarter. But he sure put up amazing stats against the NFC West. The team revolved around Jamaal Charles making up for the shortcomings of our QB.

The Chiefs made the playoffs because of Jamaal Charles and an average defense. And because they had a very cooshy schedule. Period.
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Also I would like to throw out one final thought, could maybe the way haley acted to cassel contributed to some of his deer in the headlights antics?
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