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Old 01-26-2012, 09:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 02-02-2012, 09:43 PM   #361
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Link to the last sentence please.
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I don't need a link. Think it's pretty damn obvious that Haley always wanted to call his own plays.

Gailey felt like a Hunt hire. Weis felt like a Pioli hire. And we're hearing that Pioli micro-managed the shit out of Haley after the playoffs, so it seems very likely that Pioli demanded that Haley not call his own plays.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Haley's playcalling. But if he wanted to call his own plays, his GM should let him do it instead of forcing a dinosaur on him.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:43 PM   #362
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I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
To a point yes. Was he not the QB of this team the year prior? Did they not play so poorly under his leadership that they ended up with pick #5? The really good QBs never seem to have their team picking in the top 5.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:44 PM   #363
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I dont' care what his stats were. Matt Cassel was horrendous in 3rd down efficiency. Was horrendous in the first two quarters. Had maybe 1-2 games where he had any kind of decent performance in the 4th quarter. But he sure put up amazing stats against the NFC West. The team revolved around Jamaal Charles making up for the shortcomings of our QB.

The Chiefs made the playoffs because of Jamaal Charles and an average defense. And because they had a very cooshy schedule. Period.
I thought it was because haley was a genious?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:46 PM   #364
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I don't need a link. Think it's pretty damn obvious that Haley always wanted to call his own plays.

Gailey felt like a Hunt hire. Weis felt like a Pioli hire. And we're hearing that Pioli micro-managed the shit out of Haley after the playoffs, so it seems very likely that Pioli demanded that Haley not call his own plays.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Haley's playcalling. But if he wanted to call his own plays, his GM should let him do it instead of forcing a dinosaur on him.
Again haley wasn't forced to do anything. He could have walked, and if what people are saying is true his career probably would have been better for it.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:47 PM   #365
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Also I would like to throw out one final thought, could maybe the way haley acted to cassel contributed to some of his deer in the headlights antics?
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Could it? Maybe.

Could it also be possible that Cassel's success, like Daunte Culpepper, was in throwing average passes to an outrageously good receiver in Randy Moss?

Sorry, on this one, you'll be really hard-pressed to find anyone (even among Haley haters) who think Haley failed the Cassel as you will those who believe Cassel failed Haley.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:48 PM   #366
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I thought it was because haley was a genious?
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When did I say Haley was a genius? I'm saying he's not nearly as bad as people want to make him to be. His fault was that he didn't make a ton of a team who didn't have a bunch of talent.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:50 PM   #367
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Culpepper also blew his knee out right after moss left...
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:51 PM   #368
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You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.
What about the other 5 blowouts in 2009 and 2010? That's 2.5 blowouts a year. Prior to Haley we were getting blown out .39 times a year for 46 years. Yeah, that's like once every 3 years. Haley was on pace for 3 a year. You can do the math but that's ****ing insane when you compare the 46 years prior to him.

So you fire a coach when your team is getting waxed almost one out of every 5 games. You fire a coach when you consistently see the plays not getting in until there are 7 or 8 secs left on the clock. You fire a coach when you are getting ass blasted and you refuse to put a different QB in for experience if anything. Then after all that said coach gets an unsportsman like penalty? Nevermind he chased off the 2 prior OC's, one 2 weeks before the season. He put his money on ****ing Tyler Palko for not 1 but 2 seasons and refused to yank him even after he say how much fail the guy threw. Along with the constant childish cursing and yelling on the sidelines.

Yeah, you fire that coach in a ****ing heartbeat. And I didn't even mention our pathetic training camp fiasco.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:51 PM   #369
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Again haley wasn't forced to do anything. He could have walked, and if what people are saying is true his career probably would have been better for it.
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It sounds more and more like the Chiefs were forcing Haley out the door even before this season started, and that haley had considered resigning a very long time ago. You can't blame a guy like Haley for not wanting to leave his job. How many head coaches quit their job?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:52 PM   #370
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When did I say Haley was a genius? I'm saying he's not nearly as bad as people want to make him to be. His fault was that he didn't make a ton of a team who didn't have a bunch of talent.
But he took a bunch of fifth graders to
7-7 after he cost them the first two games.

Hell he was so great he won two out of three with no talent and sitting on his couch.
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To a point yes. Was he not the QB of this team the year prior? Did they not play so poorly under his leadership that they ended up with pick #5? The really good QBs never seem to have their team picking in the top 5.
This is true but I will give Cassel a partial pass on that season. 1 it was his first time starting. 2 his OC was fired 2 weeks before the season started. 3 it was a new head coach. Not a total excuse but enough I won't lay it all on him.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:53 PM   #372
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Why did Pioli allow Haley to start Palko for 4 games
Other GMs have overridden their HCs under these circumstances
Unless Stanzi was injured there's two to blame
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Culpepper also blew his knee out right after moss left...
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What the **** does that have to do with anything? Who the **** cares?

Culpepper wasn't a good QB. He was a QB that knew how to get the ball within a mile of Randy Moss and Moss was a freakish talent that he could get anything.

There were a million scouting reports after Culpepper left Minnesota that he was a one-read QB. He had zero clue how to read a defense.
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It sounds more and more like the Chiefs were forcing Haley out the door even before this season started, and that haley had considered resigning a very long time ago. You can't blame a guy like Haley for not wanting to leave his job. How many head coaches quit their job?
Only time we have heard about him contemplating quitting was the week prior to being fired.

If he was that hamstrung he could have been committing career suicide by staying and playing palko
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:55 PM   #375
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But he took a bunch of fifth graders to
7-7 after he cost them the first two games.

Hell he was so great he won two out of three with no talent and sitting on his couch.
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FTR Haley did not take us 7-7 after the first two losses. He took us 5-6 after the first two losses getting fired with a stellar 5-8 record.

Crennel took us 2-1 to finish off a 7-9 season.
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