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Old 01-26-2012, 08:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 10-10-2012, 02:20 PM   #451
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We're only 5 games into the season. He may still do that.
I'm more concerned about what he's doing behind closed doors anyway.
In my opinion, he should have addressed these situations immediately after Sunday's loss, if not Monday morning.

Failure to do so makes him look disinterested.

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I'd actually prefer to hear from the GM, but I don't disagree with you entirely.
Again, I believe it should have come from the owner. This GM is uninterested in the media, so it's no surprise that he hasn't addressed the situation.

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I still don't think that suggests he simply doesn't care. He bears a proud football family name. I can't imagine he's okay with seeing his franchise flailing about the way they are right now.
Proud? In what way is the name "Hunt" associated with a "proud" name? As I pointed out earlier, the Chiefs missed the playoffs from 1972 to 1986, then from 1987-1990. They haven't won a playoff game since the 1993 season.

I think you'll find very few people outside 200 mile radius of KC that is even familiar with the Hunt name, let alone the "pride" behind it.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:23 PM   #452
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I know I can't convince anyone that what I'm saying is true. People have to come to that realization on their own ... if they ever do. Years of faithful loyalty don't just evaporate overnight and it's difficult to believe that an NFL franchise could operate with no emphasis on consistent success.

For my part, I've heard all the arguments that our situation is simply the product of a long history of poor decision-making or bad luck and I finally had to reject them. It just doesn't make sense. And, if you set them aside for a moment, you begin to realize that there is more going on here than mere incompetence. There is a lot of money being paid out to people who are not producing positive results ... a lot of money. Meanwhile, people who strive and fight for accountability are fired while incompetence is rewarded.

If you step back and look at this entire situation with cold, impartial objectivity, the fact that the Chiefs organization could barely care less about the fans and/or fielding a truly competitive football team becomes frighteningly clear and it's not just reflected in our record.

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Dane, will you admit Clark cares if he fires Pioli?
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:38 PM   #454
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Dane, will you admit Clark cares if he fires Pioli?
Cares? I don't think I'd go that far but I would compliment him on making a fine business decision.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:40 PM   #455
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In my opinion, he should have addressed these situations immediately after Sunday's loss, if not Monday morning.

Failure to do so makes him look disinterested.
Or it may suggest that he's not willing to be a meddlesome owner.

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Again, I believe it should have come from the owner. This GM is uninterested in the media, so it's no surprise that he hasn't addressed the situation.
It's still part of his job.
He could be compelled, by the owner, to address the stat quo.

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Proud? In what way is the name "Hunt" associated with a "proud" name? As I pointed out earlier, the Chiefs missed the playoffs from 1972 to 1986, then from 1987-1990. They haven't won a playoff game since the 1993 season.
It's a respected name in light of its overall history.
People respect the Hunt name. So does Clark.

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I think you'll find very few people outside 200 mile radius of KC that is even familiar with the Hunt name, let alone the "pride" behind it.
If we're talking the average fan, sure...
People who are knowledgeable about the history of this league respect the name.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:42 PM   #456
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I know I can't convince anyone that what I'm saying is true. People have to come to that realization on their own ... if they ever do. Years of faithful loyalty don't just evaporate overnight and it's difficult to believe that an NFL franchise could operate with no emphasis on consistent success.

For my part, I've heard all the arguments that our situation is simply the product of a long history of poor decision-making or bad luck and I finally had to reject them. It just doesn't make sense. And, if you set them aside for a moment, you begin to realize that there is more going on here than mere incompetence. There is a lot of money being paid out to people who are not producing positive results ... a lot of money. Meanwhile, people who strive and fight for accountability are fired while incompetence is rewarded.

If you step back and look at this entire situation with cold, impartial objectivity, the fact that the Chiefs organization could barely care less about the fans and/or fielding a truly competitive football team becomes frighteningly clear and it's not just reflected in our record.

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Widen the scope and look at other organizations who've had long bouts with failure. It's not just the Chiefs. There are other organizations we can name. Ultimately the organizations that have won consistently...have done so because they've consistently made good decisions, put good decision makers in place, and been good stewards of personnel. Some organizations have winning philosophies.
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Or it may suggest that he's not willing to be a meddlesome owner.
I'd say he's the exact opposite of "meddlesome", which would be avoiding, dodging or ignorant. You choose.

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It's still part of his job.
He could be compelled, by the owner, to address the stat quo.
As defined by whom? If anything, the President of the franchise should address the notion that 70,000 fans were out of line, if not the owner.

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It's a respected name in light of its overall history. People respect the Hunt name. So does Clark.
Dude, give me a break. Go ask someone in Seattle or San Francisco or Buffalo or Tampa what the Hunt Family means and get back to us.

That idea is ludicrous. As it's been discussed in other threads, most people outside that region believe that the Kansas City Chiefs play in KANSAS.

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It's a respected name in light of its overall If we're talking the average fan, sure...
People who are knowledgeable about the history of this league respect the name.
And it's the average fan that continues to fill up Arrowhead Stadium, isn't it?
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Some organizations have winning philosophies.
Which leads right back to ownership.

Duh.
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Which leads right back to ownership.

Duh.
And we can take that mean we don't have one because they don't care to have one?

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He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"
Haley's dad was able to determine watching ONE PRACTICE that Cassel simply didn't have it. Yet Pioli watched him for years in NE during practice, and watched him shit all over himself here, and still thinks he can play.

Just think about that. WTF does the say about Pioli?
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I'd say he's the exact opposite of "meddlesome", which would be avoiding, dodging or ignorant. You choose.
He made a statement today defending the fans.
How's that for dodging?

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As defined by whom? If anything, the President of the franchise should address the notion that 70,000 fans were out of line, if not the owner.

Crickets.
No General Manager can avoid the media entirely.
And Pioli hasn't. His philosophy is such that he doesn't give much to the local media, but that's not unlike most other GM's.

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Dude, give me a break. Go ask someone in Seattle or San Francisco or Buffalo or Tampa what the Hunt Family means and get back to us.
The AFC Championship Trophy bears his family name.
I think that suggests it has a smidgen of value.

That idea is ludicrous. As it's been discussed in other threads, most people outside that region believe that the Kansas City Chiefs play in KANSAS.

I get it though. You want to believe Hunt and company don't care.
You're entitled. We should probably agree to disagree at this point though.
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I get it though. You want to believe Hunt and company don't care.
You're entitled. We should probably agree to disagree at this point though.
The Hunt family didn't care about the Chiefs fans in the 70's or 80's. They "began" to care in the 90's, when TV contracts, thanks to Jerry Jones, became far more lucrative than they had in the past.

Lamar Hunt had an issue with firing people, hence Steadman and Schaaf for 29 years and Carl Peterson for 17 years. And instead of cleaning house immediately after assuming control of the Chiefs, Clark gave Peterson two more years, even though it was clearly time to move on.

My personal feeling is that Clark knew his back was against the wall with the Kansas City (i.e., stadium upgrades) and the fans when he finally fired Peterson in late 2008. Does he feel, once again, like his back is against the wall?

If not, don't expect anything other than more Pioli.
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Firing Peterson in 2007 would have been premature. They were a year removed from a playoff appearance.

He fired Peterson at exactly the right time.
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Firing Peterson in 2007 would have been premature. They were a year removed from a playoff appearance.

He fired Peterson at exactly the right time.
Eh it didn't make much sense to begin a rebuilding process with a GM/coach for 1 year.
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Haley's dad was able to determine watching ONE PRACTICE that Cassel simply didn't have it. Yet Pioli watched him for years in NE during practice, and watched him shit all over himself here, and still thinks he can play.

Just think about that. WTF does the say about Pioli?
Explains our drafts.

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A great offensive line makes the HB and QB look good.

A great D line makes the LB's and DB's look good...
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