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Old 01-30-2012, 01:43 PM  
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'real' birth certificate?

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http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-c...1327926999.pdf - Jablonski's letter to the Sec. of States Office of Georgia
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-c...1327927053.pdf - Response to Jeblonski's letter from the Sec. of States Office of Georgia

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Old 01-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #2
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:55 PM   #4
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This isn't even a birther case. Well, not primarily anyway, Orly Taitz is making the side-argument, which has no chance at all, that the birth certificate was a forgery, but this case is primarily about whether both parents have to be citizens to be natural born (they don't, the crazies are wrong).

There are no documents for Obama to produce.
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:02 PM   #5
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regarding this quirky Georgia issue:

Georgia law says that when someone challenges the eligibility of a candidate, the secretary of state must refer it to an administrative hearing. Obama's lawyers tried to suggest that he didn't have to and could have turned the challenge down, but GA lawyers seem to agree that's wrong, the SOS has no discretion at all, even when the challenge is clearly crazy.

The judge is not making the decision whether Obama should be on the ballot. His role is to investigate the facts of the issue and merely make a recommendation to the SOS. The judge has indicated that he may recommend that Obama be left off, not because he evaluated the merits of the argument and agreed with it, but just by default because Obama's lawyer wont show up to refute anything. (and he probably shouldn't, Orly Taitz and idiots like her shouldn't be elevated)

At that point, the GA SOS, having fulfilled his legal duty to let the challenger have a hearing, can say "thank you very much, judge. I disagree with your recommendation. Obama stays on the ballot." So, this administrative hearing means nothing. It is the GA SOS's call.

If he instead chooses to remove Obama from the ballot, it gets instantly appealed to federal court, who will swiftly overturn that decision.

After everything's done, Orly Taitz will resume her whining and crying about this vast conspiracy to protect Obama from claims of being an illegitimate president.
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My understanding based on the coverage here in GA is that this case is about the future and not today. There's a lot of folks from both sides of the isle that really want to see it proceed so there will never be another birther type controversy again.

A few names I have heard thrown out are Jindal and Rubio as reasons this case is good...FWIW
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By the way, if both of your parents must be US citizens for you to be a natural-born citizen (they dont, but these crazy bats say yes), then Senator Rubio is ineligible to be Vice-President for the GOP.
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This isn't even a birther case. Well, not primarily anyway, Orly Taitz is making the side-argument, which has no chance at all, that the birth certificate was a forgery, but this case is primarily about whether both parents have to be citizens to be natural born (they don't, the crazies are wrong).

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By the way, if both of your parents must be US citizens for you to be a natural-born citizen (they dont, but these crazy bats say yes), then Senator Rubio is ineligible to be Vice-President for the GOP.
One of the reasons folks down here want precident I am sure.
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One of the reasons folks down here want precident I am sure.
If we're hell-bent on forcing the supreme court to decide this, that probably would have been ideal. The VP does virtually nothing, and if the supreme court ultimately tossed him out (yeah right, the 14th amendment and US v Wong Kim Ark say otherwise), then the president gets to send a nominee to the senate for VP.
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