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Old 01-31-2012, 01:52 PM  
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:03 PM   #4306
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That might be true, but I don't think its a deal breaker. UNC is a much tougher fish to reel in. There is a high degree of academic snobbery there and at UVA. They see themselves more in a B!G academic setting than an SEC one. They know the SEC won't offer both them and Duke, but the B!G might. So, they will hold out until the bitter end which may be longer than the SEC cares to.

NC St is the football program and regaining their basketball prominence, and that would appeal to the SEC. NC St will draw enough of the interest in North Carolina to make it worthwhile unlike the crapshoot with Duke.

I think the SEC would prefer UVA and UNC, but UVA is even more snobbey than UNC, so they focused on the better football school in VPI. They'll probably do the same in North Carolina.
^ This. I think the SEC would love UNC and UVA and they would be shoo ins if they wanted to come. I think though that if the ACC broke apart, the B1G would jump all over those schools as well and due to academics and money (mainly the CIC), UNC and UVA go to the B1G. This means the SEC goes to Plan B which is VT and NCSU.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:08 PM   #4307
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I don't think they ever would be. They could have any team they wanted. They favor adding strong teams, media markets and states to their footprint - but a lot of people outside the footprint have a little misunderstanding about what schools would add to those. For example, people here think Duke could get a sniff from the SEC because they are in NC and NC has a major city or two. Not that simple.
Wrong.
They wanted UT and didn't get them.
They wanted OU and did not get them
I almost guarantee they would love to have ND but wont get them
They want UNC, but most likely wont get them if the ACC dissolves
They want UVA (see above comment)


There are many schools out there who would love to go to the SEC, but let's not kid ourselves there are big fish they want but most likely wont land.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:27 PM   #4308
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:47 AM   #4309
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Thing is this though, you are quoting of all sources the Scout WVU board who has perpetually been wrong on almost any and every aspect of conference realignment. This reflects on you and while it may or may not be your opinion, it definitely should not be a source that you should put too much stock into.
I leave critical thinking to the individual. If there is no material to consider, it makes it a very dull thread.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:13 AM   #4310
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I leave critical thinking to the individual. If there is no material to consider, it makes it a very dull thread.
Bring the rumors.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:11 AM   #4311
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Bring the rumors.
Right now, most rumors are speculating on the new wild card in the whole situation: PSU. Does the current controversy warrant an expulsion from the B1G? If it does, what does the B1G do to get back to 12, and how soon?

Some of the scenarios being floated:

Missouri (SEC has no withdraw penalties, would Mizzou be that bold if offered?)

Virginia Tech (are the academics up to snuff and would this be preferable to UVA at a possible later date)?

Pitt/Syracuse (they just settled to get out of the BEAST)

Rutgers (exit penalties to consider)

Maryland (are they worthy enough)

Also, would they sit at 12 again, or use this to expand quickly to 16?
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:15 AM   #4312
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Could the Big XII survive as an 8 team league if they lost, say, Tech and Iowa State?
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #4313
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Right now, most rumors are speculating on the new wild card in the whole situation: PSU. Does the current controversy warrant an expulsion from the B1G? If it does, what does the B1G do to get back to 12, and how soon?

Some of the scenarios being floated:

Missouri (SEC has no withdraw penalties, would Mizzou be that bold if offered?)

Virginia Tech (are the academics up to snuff and would this be preferable to UVA at a possible later date)?

Pitt/Syracuse (they just settled to get out of the BEAST)

Rutgers (exit penalties to consider)

Maryland (are they worthy enough)

Also, would they sit at 12 again, or use this to expand quickly to 16?

Now THIS is a good rumor.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #4314
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Could the Big XII survive as an 8 team league if they lost, say, Tech and Iowa State?
I think the contract requires a ten team conference, so they would have to replace those schools quickly if it ever came to that.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:00 PM   #4315
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I think the contract requires a ten team conference, so they would have to replace those schools quickly if it ever came to that.
That aside, would it be a viable conference in today's world? I feel like it could be a better with only eight teams if they were the right eight.
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That aside, would it be a viable conference in today's world? I feel like it could be a better with only eight teams if they were the right eight.
ISU would probably be the easiest to lose because of its location. TT would be really difficult to let go because of Texas politics. Obviously, if you have less mouths to feed, you get higher percentages of revenues, but I don't know that those programs detract that much to even really being a consideration.
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Maybe, maybe not:

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Big Ten officials are still in the early stages of debating how to handle fallout from the scandal. Among other ideas, the league’s presidents and chancellors could consider removing Penn State from the conference, one Big Ten leader told The Chronicle.

The Big Ten Conference Handbook, which governs the league’s operations, does not contain language addressing a situation as egregious as what happened at Penn State.

But the conference’s bylaws prescribe potentially severe penalties for member institutions that break lesser rules. Any Big Ten university that employs or retains workers who intentionally falsify or deliberately fail to provide complete and accurate information during an investigation may be required to “show cause why its membership in the conference should not be suspended or terminated,” the Big Ten’s 2011-12 handbook says.

At least four top Penn State officials—including Graham B. Spanier, the former president, and Timothy M. Curley, the athletic director on administrative leave—failed to paint an accurate picture of how much they knew about Jerry Sandusky, the former coach convicted on 45 counts of child sex abuse, according to an independent report released last week. Both Spanier and Curley were part of a culture that tried to “actively conceal” abuse by the former coach, the report said.

The Big Ten’s 12-member Council of Presidents and Chancellors must approve any decision to suspend, expel, or place on probation any member of the conference. According to the conference handbook, expulsion requires a vote of not less than 60 percent of the full council (a Big Ten spokesman said that figure is actually 70 percent, or eight members, which will be reflected in the 2012-13 handbook).

The Big Ten does not have a contingency scheduling plan should Penn State’s football team be banned from playing this or any season, a senior league official told The Chronicle. But fallout from the scandal has many Big Ten leaders on edge.

http://chronicle.com/blogs/pla...e-coaches/30771
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PSU isn't going anywhere, and Mizzou wouldn't even answer the phone, anyway. That ship has sailed.
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