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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:22 PM   #4351
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Clemson and FSU would easily be better additions to the Big IIX than TCU and WVU.
Weird, your conference doesn't seem to agree.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:23 PM   #4352
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KU fan claiming that Clemson isn't relevant in a football discussion is awesome.
The Big 12 isn't interested in them. The Big 12 is interested in Kansas.

I'm not making those decisions.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #4353
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Weird, your conference doesn't seem to agree.
What?
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:27 PM   #4354
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Hypocritson does not think Clemson's endowment is good enough.
Their endowment, their academic ranking, their athletic program. There are many reasons why Clemson isn't relevant to the Big 12.

I'll take it that the Big 12 is looking to the TV networks in deciding what to do and Clemson simply doesn't add any value to their contracts. Why divide the money up more ways when you would get the same check?

MU and A&M added no value either. If they did then why do we see an "increase" when it comes to payouts with the new Big 12 TV deal? You can't argue with numbers.

But I liked watching CJ Spiller when he was at Clemson. I'll enjoy watching them play in the ACC. But as we saw in last year's Orange Bowl, Clemson has a long way before being able to compete with the Big 12 football teams.
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What?
The SEC and the Big 12 have recently agreed on a bowl deal temporarily named the "Champions Bowl". This agreement was made after the additions of WVU and TCU (two high level BCS winning programs).

I can't say whether or not the same deal would have been made with the addition of FSU and Clemson. With FSU then no doubt it would have. Clemson I don't know....I just looked through their bowl performance over the couple decades and their isn't much to get excited about.

I think Clemson fits in well with the current ACC teams.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:32 PM   #4356
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mizzou better be playing a better school than kansas if that happens...
What are you talking about? The programs have a virtual split in all time wins, neighbor each other, and while MU has more bowls KU has what MU fans have been hoping for to achieve for years.

If you have one of these challenge things the KU-MU is by far the best arrangement.
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The SEC and the Big 12 have recently agreed on a bowl deal temporarily named the "Champions Bowl". This agreement was made after the additions of WVU and TCU (two high level BCS winning programs).

I can't say whether or not the same deal would have been made with the addition of FSU and Clemson. With FSU then no doubt it would have. Clemson I don't know....I just looked through their bowl performance over the couple decades and their isn't much to get excited about.

I think Clemson fits in well with the current ACC teams.
Let's see what happens to TCU post-Patterson. This university could turn into Baylor-light in a flash.

There's absolutely no question that Clemson would be far more desirable than TCU. Not even remotely close.
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If I were to paint my dream scenario assuming no ND:

SEC gets UNC and UVA

B12 gets FSU, Clemson, G Tech, V Tech, NC St and Louisville


SEC-Big12 Challenge over the first four weeks of the college season:

FSU-UF
GTech-UGA
Clemson-USC
NC St-UNC
VTech-UVA
Louisville-UK
UT-A&M
KU-MU
OU-Bama (Crimson and Cream vs Crimson Tide)
OSU-Tenn (Orange Crush)
ISU-Vanderbilt (We're in these conferences too!)
KSU-Auburn (Wildcats and Tigers)
TTech-Ole Miss (Red Raiders and Rebels)
Baylor-Miss St (Bears and Bulldogs)
WVU-LSU (Mountains and Swamps)
TCU-Arkansas (Jerry's Jumbo Jubilee)

Week 1:

East Coast Early: VTech-UVA
Noon: TTech-Ole Miss
Late Afternoon: TCU-Arkansas
Prime Time: WVU-LSU

Week 2:

East Coast Early: GTech-UGA
Noon: ISU-Vanderbilt
Late Afternoon: OSU-Tenn
Prime Time: OU-Bama

Week 3:

East Coast Early: NC St-UNC
Noon: Louisville-UK
Late Afternoon: KSU-Auburn
Prime Time: UT-A&M

Week 4:

East Coast Early: Clemson-USC
Noon: Baylor-Miss St
Late Afternoon: KU-MU
Prime Time: FSU-UF

Could you imagine the extra cash we could demand for that setup? That's a ratings bonanza ESPN couldn't refuse.
This does look pretty awesome.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:41 PM   #4360
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Let's see what happens to TCU post-Patterson. This university could turn into Baylor-light in a flash.

There's absolutely no question that Clemson would be far more desirable than TCU. Not even remotely close.
Fan base then yes, Clemson is better. Performance on the field then TCU is better.

The Big 12 really isn't interested in pushing forward one of these conference network setups similar to the B1G. The Big 12 wants to get the highest level of play on the field to boost their national appeal with big time games and high positions in bowls come post season. There's just no need to dilute the conference with a team like Clemson.

If things blow up for the ACC then sure why not. But I have been thinking for months that the ACC isn't going anywhere. I still think it's going to be around forever in some form or another. Thus it takes someone REALLY wanting Clemson in order for them to leave. That's not happening with the Big 12.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #4361
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You guys can't even sell a fourth of your tickets to a neutral site game against your prime rivals... no thanks, good riddance. You chose your path.
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You guys can't even sell a fourth of your tickets to a neutral site game against your prime rivals... no thanks, good riddance. You chose your path.
Are you speaking of last years game? It was a calculated move by the fan base for the removal of the head coach...and it worked.

Good thing to because many of us were scared shitless when hapless Turner Gill was beating you at halftime. Thank God that didn't end up staying true. I can't go another year with Gill and his circus.

But if it never happens I'd be completely fine with it. Missouri chose to leave the conference and end the series. I'm just saying that if this completely dreamed up scenario that HH has made actually happened that the best economical setup would be to pit KU against MU. Doesn't matter much to me either way.
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Outside the Oklahoma schools, name one Big XII team Clemson couldn't stand up with.
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Outside the Oklahoma schools, name one Big XII team Clemson couldn't stand up with.
Here you go... I can't watch this mess again.

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So the Oklahoma schools and WVU.

Sounds like the rest of the Big XII.
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