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Old 01-31-2012, 01:52 PM  
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****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:00 PM   #5686
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Well, your two cents is completely wrong. KU went to multiple final fours and won a title in 88, so they did not exactly suck. Ask an MU fan about the best victories from that decade, and I am sure the name Lee Coward the Kansas Killer will come up.

The Border War never died or lost its luster when Norm was on the Mizzou bench.
Obviously, you don't remember getting free tickets from clients to the Border War at the end of Ted Owens and seeing Allen Fieldhouse 1/4 empty for the Mizzou game. But I do. I was there. Agree to disagree.



KU did win it all in 1988 but only after one outstanding second half. By the next year, they were on probation, with a new coach, non-compettiive in League play (they finished 7th in the Big 8) and MU-OU fought for the title. That was 1989 remember. KU started the decade poorly and ended it poorly. Mizzou was good every year. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:01 PM   #5687
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Obviously, you don't remember getting free tickets from clients to the Border War at the end of Ted Owens and seeing Allen Fieldhouse 1/4 empty for the Mizzou game. But I do. I was there. Agree to disagree.



KU did win it all in 1988 but only after one outstanding second half. By the next year, they were on probation, with a new coach, non-compettiive in League play (they finished 7th in the Big 8) and MU-OU fought for the title. That was 1989 remember. KU started the decade poorly and ended it poorly. Mizzou was good every year. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Whatever...go back to your KU thread. Yall left the border war behind anyway, so there is no use talking to stupid.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:22 PM   #5688
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Whatever...go back to your KU thread. Yall left the border war behind anyway, so there is no use talking to stupid.
You'll find meaning in your MIzzou life some day. Maybe it'll be your future matchups with a true peer: Ole Miss.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #5689
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You'll find meaning in your MIzzou life some day. Maybe it'll be your future matchups with a true peer: Ole Miss.
You're such a silly bastard.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:31 PM   #5690
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Still trying to figure out why somebody is so obsessed with an school that is not their rival, never will be and will probably never play them again in any sport. Maybe I'll ask one of those millions of Mizzou fans that follow MU in baskeball and OU in football how someone could be so obsessed with a school.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:06 PM   #5691
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http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...leges/ACC.aspx

Article about a possible ACC network that touches on the SEC and Big 12.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:46 PM   #5692
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Big12 makes the most money per school.

Also rumor floating around that Big12 will invite Miami to join the conference, and they will accept.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:47 PM   #5693
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Also both Boise and San Diego St. are staying in the Mac, and they will have two six team divisions and add a Championship game this year.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:01 PM   #5694
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Big12 makes the most money per school.

Also rumor floating around that Big12 will invite Miami to join the conference, and they will accept.
I've heard no such rumor.

If the ACC collapses, Miami would be more interested in the B1G.
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It is interesting timing since just the other day Bowlsby said for the first time that the Big12 could be proactive this time around in conference reallignment
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:10 AM   #5696
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SEC revenue set to jump 50% with playoff, new TV deals

Steve Berkowitz USA TODAY

Already home to many of the nation's best-financed college athletics programs, the Southeastern Conference is about two years from distributing at least $10 million -- and perhaps as much as $14 million -- more per school than it did during the 2011-12 fiscal year, a USA TODAY Sports analysis projects.

This would represent at least a 50% increase in the SEC's per-school take, which could get close to $34 million in 2014-15 and for a few years exceed the revenue each of the Big Ten Conference schools get from their shares of conference and NCAA revenues. In part because of the Big Ten Network's success, most Big Ten schools recently have been receiving $1 million to $4 million more per year than SEC schools – roughly $23 million to $25 million apiece.

However, because of a pending re-configuration of the SEC's television arrangements and a major increase in postseason football payouts that will occur when the Bowl Championship Series is replaced by a four-team playoff in the 2014-15 season, SEC revenue is about to escalate dramatically.

The SEC has been renegotiating its long-term rights deals with ESPN and CBS to take into consideration the conference's recent additions of Missouri and Texas A&M. When those deals began in with the 2009-10 school year, they were worth $3 billion over 15 years (with the conference having grown to 14 schools, that now works out to an annual average of $14.3 million per school).

In an interview with USA TODAY Sports in mid-December, SEC commissioner Mike Slive all but said one outcome will be the formation of the conference's own network. "Given the networks that have been developed, is there room for any more?" Slive asked. "And the answer is: 'At least one.' "

The additional revenue will further separate the SEC schools from others in terms of overall revenue and expense, including the compensation paid to football coaches. In turn, this seems likely to increase the pressure on other schools to keep up.

According to data compiled by USA TODAY Sports:

--During the 2012 football season, the SEC had four of the eight highest-paid head coaches, four of the six highest-paid assistants and five of the 15 highest-paid assistant-coaching staffs.

--In terms of overall revenue and expense, the SEC had nine of the 19 highest-revenue athletics programs in 2010-11, the most recent year for which national figures are available (and Texas A&M, which was not yet in the SEC was 15th). It also had nine of the 20 highest-spending programs.

Assuming the conference maintains its current lineup of 14 members, the combination of new deals with ESPN and CBS, along with the formation of a 100% SEC-owned network, would bring the SEC schools nearly $23 million apiece in 2014-15, according to an estimate prepared for USA TODAY Sports by a college sports rights-valuation firm. The SEC's postseason football revenues with the playoff, combined with money the conference is likely to get from its men's basketball tournament and from the NCAA, would provide at least another $11 million, according to past SEC revenue-distribution announcements, NCAA revenue-distribution reports and financial documents and a person with direct knowledge of the playoff's revenue distribution plan.

The person who provided the playoff revenue details to USA TODAY Sports, spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. The SEC TV revenue estimate comes from Navigate Research, a Chicago-based firm that is not currently working with the SEC but has done multimedia rights valuations for schools in various power conferences; the estimate is based on 15-year rights deals with ESPN and CBS that would be worth an annual average of $25 million per school (a total of $5.25 billion) and an SEC Network that while 100% conference-owned, like the Pacific-12's new network, primarily would have only one channel, like the Big Ten's.

A potentially significant variable in the SEC's per-school payouts is the amount of money that could be required for the start-up of a network and/or the amount of money the conference office needs to keep for operations.

SEC spokesman Craig Pinkerton said in an e-mail the conference "will hold with our policy of not discussing financial matters other than the end of the year distribution release that we send out," a release usually made in conjunction with the SEC's annual spring meeting in late May or early June.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...eases/1836389/
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How SEC schools potentially reach $34 million apiece in shared conference and NCAA revenues in 2014-15:

SEC television arrangements

ESPN and CBS contracts: $21.4 million per school ($300 million total)

Estimated to be worth $5.25 billion if new 15-year deals replace the 15-year deals that began with the 2009-10 school year. While the annual average would be $25 million per school, the deal likely would pay the school less in the early years, more in the later years.

SEC Network: $1.5 million per school ($21 million total)

A dedicated conference network is projected to have extremely good distribution among cable and satellite TV providers, especially in states where the conference has schools. It also may be attractive nationally.

Postseason football: At least $7.1 million per school ($100 million total)

With the new four-team playoff replacing the Bowl Championship Series and other new bowl arrangements, the SEC projects to get these total amounts in 2014-15 from the following sources:

--$50 million from the major conferences' playoff TV deal with ESPN; this is based on annual average over the life of a 12-year deal, so this amount may be lower in 2014-15.

--$40 million from its share of the Sugar Bowl, which will be operated under a new business model in which the SEC and the Big 12 primarily control the event.

--$6 million for having one team in a semifinal (the payout to conferences will be $6 million per semifinalist, so the SEC could get more than $6 million).

--$4 million for having one team in a so-called host bowl, one of the games outside the semifinals other than the Sugar Bowl.

Note: There will be no additional payouts to conferences based on teams advancing to, or winning, the championship game.

NCAA and other SEC revenue: $4 million per school ($56 million total)

--$15.3 million from the SEC football championship game.

--$4.9 million from the SEC men's basketball tournament.

--$33.7 million from the NCAA various revenue pools, including the men's basketball tournament fund.

The amounts listed here are the actual revenue amounts reported by the SEC for the football and men's basketball events in 2011-12 and the actual revenue total from the NCAA for 2010-11, the most recent one available. But they are not likely to increase dramatically. The football title game has been sold out annually; the basketball tournament revenue has been stable in recent years, according to SEC releases; and while the distribution from the NCAA may rise because of the additions of Missouri and Texas A&M and due to increases in NCAA revenue, the conference's expansion may offset an increase on a per-school basis. Also, some distributions from the NCAA are not shared equally.

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I've heard no such rumor.

If the ACC collapses, Miami would be more interested in the B1G.
I've heard this rumor.

Miami isn't exactly in a position to be choosy. If they get an invite to the Big 12, they will take it and be damned grateful for the opportunity. Seems like a dumb move by the Big 12 to me, but who knows? Maybe Florida State isn't walking through that door.
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K-State's WR coach is leaving to take the same job at Arkansas. That's the second coach who has left for a lateral move. What gives?
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K-State's WR coach is leaving to take the same job at Arkansas. That's the second coach who has left for a lateral move. What gives?

Maybe they see it as a move up rather than a lateral move. Maybe they got offered more money. Maybe they saw it as the "next step" in their coaching career.

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