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Old 02-25-2013, 07:29 PM   #6451
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And yet, you're 37-49 all time vs them including 4-6 in the last ten. I guess that's success, judged from Iowa State standards.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM   #6452
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:32 PM   #6453
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:03 PM   #6454
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:15 PM   #6455
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What is the statute of limitations for "the past"? Is it the Orange Bowl 5 years ago - would that be living in the past? Does the win tonight at Hilton already reside in the past too?
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:29 PM   #6456
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What is the statute of limitations for "the past"? Is it the Orange Bowl 5 years ago - would that be living in the past? Does the win tonight at Hilton already reside in the past too?
Who cares what we were Pre Rhoads or Pre Hoiberg. That doesn't effect where they are taking them, it only limits their start.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:30 PM   #6457
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Who cares what we were Pre Rhoads or Pre Hoiberg. That doesn't effect where they are taking them, it only limits their start.
So basically "the past" is whatever fits your agenda.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:03 AM   #6458
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Who cares what we were Pre Rhoads or Pre Hoiberg. That doesn't effect where they are taking them, it only limits their start.
That isn't remotely true.

Typically for example only blue bloods win championships in either sport. In the last 30 years the only non blue bloods to break through are Georgia Tech, BYU, Miami, and Colorado and they all have a heck of a lot more history than Ist, Miami winning to the point they are a blue blood. Plus other issues that played into their rise to power that should probably disqualify them as an example. It took the greatest coach in the country 14 years to elevate a similar program in Kst to a conference championship but they haven't gotten any closer than Mizzou to a national title in that time. Iowa State is probably never winning a conference title in football and is most definitely never winning a national title and it has everything to do w/ pedigree.

In hoops UCONN is the only I can think of in that span to win a national title their first trip to the final four. Everyone else had already broken through and established themselves as a power. I think Ist has a ff appearance from like 70 yrs or something but for all intent and purpose for this conversation it might as well be 0. I do think it's possible for them to get the right draw and get to a ff (numerous examples of lesser programs getting there in recent yrs) but a national title is highly unlikely. A conference title merely unlikely although possible.

To say the past and pedigree doesn't affect where and how far a program can go flies in the face of 100+ years of evidence to the contrary and is absolutely not true.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #6459
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Watching that game last night makes me so glad to be in the SEC. The Withey call wasn't an honest mistake. It simply isn't possible that the refs just blew it to that extent.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:59 AM   #6460
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Wow, just saw that play. That's pretty sad they called that.
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Pretty bad when this foul (called on Young instead of Withey's 5th) isn't the worst KU ISU call in Big 12 history.


They only missed the call by 6 feet. The refs TOTALLY weren't on the take.



Check out this blast from the past. KU fouls ISU. It's a 2 shot foul. After the first shot is missed, KU grabs the ball, runs down court, and hits a 3. The refs stop play and give the ISU player his second free throw, BUT THEY COUNT THE 3 POINTER FOR KU. (Won't embed)

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:15 AM   #6465
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Watching that game last night makes me so glad to be in the SEC. The Withey call wasn't an honest mistake. It simply isn't possible that the refs just blew it to that extent.
Hold on....According to all the MU fans here in the game threads, The SEC refs have it out for MU because they are the "new team" on the block......And the Big 12 refs had it out for MU since they were leaving.....?????

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