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Old 10-10-2013, 07:48 AM   #8836
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Agreed with Kentucky attendance being skewed up. I noticed too last night that Kentucky only averages 49k (with the boost from the big boys as you noted + Louisville who helps them every other year) and KU 41k. Hardly the big gap that MosBoner pretended exists.
Other years when their program was semi decent their numbers are much higher...I do think they support football better than KU but the gap isn't wide for the aforementioned reasons, not wide enough to really care. KU compares favorably as far as support w/ Indiana, another basketball school w/ a similar football program who I am not sure was even trying before their current AD. They're way ahead of Duke and Vandy but those are small private schools so not apples to apples. UNC and UCLA both win a lot more so again not apples to apples.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:00 AM   #8837
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I love the excuse that Louisville fans coming every other year skews Kentucky attendance upward...as if Louisville had been known as some kind of football powerhouse over the years whose fans pack opposing teams' stadiums thus skewing their attendance figures skyward.

Meanwhile, Jayhawks fans mix their blue and red colors when KSU comes to town thus giving the appearance that the place has more Wildcat fans that Jayhawks fans in attendance.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:01 AM   #8838
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Unc doesn't win squat in football.

These numbers (and frankly win totals) do need to account for local competition. Vandy, Kansas, Indiana, Colorado, GTech etc all have NFL franchises right down the street. Put one in Omaha or Birmingham or Okc and see how attendance changes. KU basketball would take at least some hit if the NBA ever came here.
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Probably a bad time to mention this, Bitch, but Tennessee and Virginia Tech are set to announce a game at Bristol Motor Speedway...expected to draw 160,000 fans.

That's roughly 6 1\2 KU homecomings worth of fans.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:16 AM   #8840
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I love the excuse that Louisville fans coming every other year skews Kentucky attendance upward...as if Louisville had been known as some kind of football powerhouse over the years whose fans pack opposing teams' stadiums thus skewing their attendance figures skyward.

Meanwhile, Jayhawks fans mix their blue and red colors when KSU comes to town thus giving the appearance that the place has more Wildcat fans that Jayhawks fans in attendance.
Not Loiusville

Alabama, Auburn, LSU, UT, Fla, UGA

You can add 10-15k for a school like UK every time they come to town.
Like Neb in the 90s. Whatever Louisville does is canceled out by Kstate over time. I'm not sure the big 12 has another school that travels as well as the big 6.
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Not Loiusville

Alabama, Auburn, LSU, UT, Fla, UGA

You can add 10-15k for a school like UK every time they come to town.
Like Neb in the 90s. Whatever Louisville does is canceled out by Kstate over time. I'm not sure the big 12 has another school that travels as well as the big 6.
I was referring to Bitch's comment about Louisville.
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Unc doesn't win squat in football.

These numbers (and frankly win totals) do need to account for local competition. Vandy, Kansas, Indiana, Colorado, GTech etc all have NFL franchises right down the street. Put one in Omaha or Birmingham or Okc and see how attendance changes. KU basketball would take at least some hit if the NBA ever came here.
Compared historically to KU they have but generally speaking no.
They are more consistent than KU which over time impacts attendance.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:23 AM   #8843
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Probably a bad time to mention this, Bitch, but Tennessee and Virginia Tech are set to announce a game at Bristol Motor Speedway...expected to draw 160,000 fans.

That's roughly 6 1\2 KU homecomings worth of fans.
Of course, Kansas-Ohio State drew 74k for a basketball game which nearly matches Faurot's all time record of 75k. Obviously, one is important and the other isn't so that matters. But still....
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:31 AM   #8844
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Unc doesn't win squat in football.

These numbers (and frankly win totals) do need to account for local competition. Vandy, Kansas, Indiana, Colorado, GTech etc all have NFL franchises right down the street. Put one in Omaha or Birmingham or Okc and see how attendance changes. KU basketball would take at least some hit if the NBA ever came here.
Indiana, Vandy and KU are basketball schools. Gtech is irrelevant in Atlanta. They have a lot of non traditional students and just in general don't care that much about sports....that they have been decent over time in spite of that is impressive. Pro sports are not big in the south even in Atlanta and Nashville comparatively speaking. Colorado from the admin top down doesn't seem to be trying any more. Kind of reminds me of the Babs Uehling era at Mizzou in the 80s which set us back 20 years in football. I'm not saying pro sports doesn't have an impact but I think those are the driving forces in the ones you mentioned.
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Compared historically to KU they have but generally speaking no.
They are more consistent than KU which over time impacts attendance.
Complete, unsupportable nonsense. Acc is total garbage historically, swap the two and you'd swap the records. Kansas is rated higher on this measure:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/ran...m_rankings.php
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Complete, unsupportable nonsense. Acc is total garbage historically, swap the two and you'd swap the records. Kansas is rated higher on this measure:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/ran...m_rankings.php
LOL of course the ACC is garbage. Throw them in the big 8/12 and they are KU. But they aren't in the big 12. UNC has won more games. That's all that matters over time as it pertains to attendance.

You're taking what I'm saying out of context.
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Probably a bad time to mention this, Bitch, but Tennessee and Virginia Tech are set to announce a game at Bristol Motor Speedway...expected to draw 160,000 fans.

That's roughly 6 1\2 KU homecomings worth of fans.
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still picking on the slow kids over in kansas

they should abort the football program at ku to save face
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still picking on the slow kids over in kansas

they should abort the football program at ku to save face
I think they did a few years ago, but nobody told them.
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