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Old 01-31-2012, 01:52 PM  
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:13 PM   #10096
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Yes. But I admittedly love huge upsets. Who wouldn't love to see Chattanooga beat Alabama in 2 weeks? Obviously Bama fans wouldn't but that would be awesome.
It's awesome in terms of a sideshow. It sucks in terms of crowning a legit team as champion.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #10097
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That may say more about your ability to comprehend than anything. You appear to be implying that you DON'T want the better team to win most of the time (which I, clearly, do). So, you would rather the worse team win most of the time, make it a flip of the coin, or have the better team win slightly more than not. I'm trying to figure out what that would look like. Tons of penalties/fouls, insane turnovers, crazy luck, overall poor play would likely be the norm. I guess I don't just don't find that compelling.
Then European soccer is right up your alley. The best team always wins. It's mathematical.

Like we've stated before. It's extremely rare for an underdog team to win the Basketball NC. It's great fun for the excitement element but in the end the best teams are always there.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:17 PM   #10098
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It's awesome in terms of a sideshow. It sucks in terms of crowning a legit team as champion.
Which champions of the past 20 years do you deem as not legitimate?
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:25 PM   #10099
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Which champions of the past 20 years do you deem as not legitimate?
Highest seed to ever win it all was Villanova in 1985.

Far more Football Champions since them have been called "illegitimate".

That was a funny post by Saul Good.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:27 PM   #10100
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Which champions of the past 20 years do you deem as not legitimate?
UCONN finished 9th in the Big East two years ago.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #10101
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It's great fun for the excitement element but in the end the best teams are always there.
Except in 97 and 98 right?
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UCONN finished 9th in the Big East two years ago.
Is that all you got?
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That was a funny post by Saul Good.
We have 11 years of Pomeroy data and here's where the champ was rated:

2003: Syracuse 5
2004: Uconn 2 (behind Duke who they beat in the FF by 2)
2005: UNC 2 (tick behind Illinois who also made it to the final)
2006: Florida 1
2007: Florida 1
2008: Kansas 1
2009: UNC 1
2010: Duke 1
2011: UCONN 9
2012: Kentucky 1
2013: Louisville 1



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It makes money because of the tournament and the upset factor. That is where I disagree with Pitt and DJ, that is the best part. I like watching a Davidson with Steph Curry make it to the Sweet 16
I know, most folks do.

I'd prefer see a great Duke team take on a great Kentucky squad for a seat at the dance.

The upset is fun in real time, but the consequences are that a team that's ill-equipped to advance often gets piss-pounded.

I rarely root for upsets in football either. I didn't want to see LSU beat Alabama - as a college football fan, I want to see Alabama vs. FSU in the national championship. That's a damn compelling matchup. As a Mizzou fan I'd like to see us upset a team or two, but that's wearing my Mizzou hat.

I recognize why people root for the underdog, I just hate the consequences. I want to see the most talented teams 'survive and advance'.
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Is that all you got?
How many do you need? The Big East in 2011 was the best basketball conference. The SEC in 2013 is the best football conference. UCONN winning the NC would be like Florida winning this year's football title.

It's stupid.
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It's awesome in terms of a sideshow. It sucks in terms of crowning a legit team as champion.
I disagree even though it has broken my heart several times. It is what makes sports fun.
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Yes. But I admittedly love huge upsets. Who wouldn't love to see Chattanooga beat Alabama in 2 weeks? Obviously Bama fans wouldn't but that would be awesome.
That would suck.

I don't root against greatness just because it's great.

Sports schadenfreude should be restricted to hated rivals. Extending it to great teams just because they keep winning is petty.
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How many do you need? The Big East in 2011 was the best basketball conference. The SEC in 2013 is the best football conference. UCONN winning the NC would be like Florida winning this year's football title.

It's stupid.
UCONN was a #3 seed that year. They weren't a blockbuster team but they were far better than some lousy Florida football team.

The Big East was far better than the SEC is this year in football.

Without Alabama the SEC in football this year is simply another conference.
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UCONN was a #3 seed that year.
They were a 5-seed that year. But it's all he could find when asked to prove his assertion.
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