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Old 02-02-2012, 07:18 PM  
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:48 PM   #826
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Robinson will give every team in the country fits.

The big man for most teams is closer to Whithey than Robinson, and MU didn't exactly have a problem with Jeff.

Yeah, anytime you have a slightly smaller, slightly more skilled version of Dwight Howard on your team, you're going to be a tough matchup. I don't exactly see our inability to contain that freak as being demonstrative of a complete inability to deal with interior size.

Talk to me after the 2nd Baylor game and I might change my mind, and if we lose to KSU again but are actually hitting our jumpshots, I'll also reconsider, but dealing with size through drawing charges and daring the big men to put the ball on the floor has worked out well for us thus far. We haven't lost a game this year because of a size disadvantage; OSU was white-hot from the floor and MU couldn't find the bucket if they had a map against KSU.
Very true.

I was just saying when MU hits a team deep in the tourney, which I expect them to go deep, like a Syracuse or NC they could struggle.

And I know those are two of the top teams in the nation, but IMO that's what MU should be gauged against as I do consider them to be one of the better teams int he country right now. IMO if someone could ever really take advantage of English having to guard a big guy and make them go with Rat and Moore together, they could have success against MU.

Robinson is a monster, thats true. I think if him and Taylor continue to play this well (minus a few free throw attempts), KU has a good chance to beat some teams in March. Of course that also leads to the fact that if one has an off night we are in trouble.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #827
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I don't know that I would call Robinson slightly more skilled than Howard. Howard is a better rebounder (as hard as that is to believe, considering TRob is the best rebounder in the NCAA by far), a far better defender, and a more efficient scorer too (though that's mostly due to his size, not his offensive ability).

I suppose you could argue TRob has a higher offensive ceiling and more diverse offensive game, but he still has quite a bit to improve in that area to be a good offensive player at the NBA level. The size advantage that he has in the NCAA will go away next year, so he's going to have to develop his face-up game considerably.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:50 PM   #828
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Robinson will give every team in the country fits.

The big man for most teams is closer to Whithey than Robinson, and MU didn't exactly have a problem with Jeff.

Yeah, anytime you have a slightly smaller, slightly more skilled version of Dwight Howard on your team, you're going to be a tough matchup. I don't exactly see our inability to contain that freak as being demonstrative of a complete inability to deal with interior size.

Talk to me after the 2nd Baylor game and I might change my mind, and if we lose to KSU again but are actually hitting our jumpshots, I'll also reconsider, but dealing with size through drawing charges and daring the big men to put the ball on the floor has worked out well for us thus far. We haven't lost a game this year because of a size disadvantage; OSU was white-hot from the floor and MU couldn't find the bucket if they had a map against KSU.
I didn't get to watch you guys play Baylor but are you pretty confident you will beat them in Columbia? I didn't get to see any matchups or anything so I have no idea, just wondering.

I think Baylors guards are suspect and I expect MU to be able to control the game that way and I suspect that's what happened in Waco.

Just curious.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:54 PM   #829
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I don't know that I would call Robinson slightly more skilled than Howard. Howard is a better rebounder (as hard as that is to believe, considering TRob is the best rebounder in the NCAA by far), a far better defender, and a more efficient scorer too (though that's mostly due to his size, not his offensive ability).

I suppose you could argue TRob has a higher offensive ceiling and more diverse offensive game, but he still has quite a bit to improve in that area to be a good offensive player at the NBA level. The size advantage that he has in the NCAA will go away next year, so he's going to have to develop his face-up game considerably.
I was referring to his offensive skill. Howard has no appreciable offensive game - he's just a damn horse.

Robinson plays a similar style, except that he can put the ball on the floor and actually move with it.

Robinson won't be the player Howard is, Howards size advantage trumps at the NBA level, but he's a very intriguing player in his own right. If he keeps working and fills out a little more through his trunk, he could be a Karl Malone type defender/rebounder with more of a 12-15 PPG scoring potential (as opposed to Karls 25-30).

I'm sure there's a good comparable out there, but I can't think of one at the moment.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:55 PM   #830
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I didn't get to watch you guys play Baylor but are you pretty confident you will beat them in Columbia? I didn't get to see any matchups or anything so I have no idea, just wondering.

I think Baylors guards are suspect and I expect MU to be able to control the game that way and I suspect that's what happened in Waco.

Just curious.
Nope, not confident.

We can win and gun to my head I'd say we will, but if I had to lay more than 3 points, or more accurately if the money line didn't pay at least 120 for 100, I wouldn't take the bet.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #831
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I was referring to his offensive skill. Howard has no appreciable offensive game - he's just a damn horse.

Robinson plays a similar style, except that he can put the ball on the floor and actually move with it.

Robinson won't be the player Howard is, Howards size advantage trumps at the NBA level, but he's a very intriguing player in his own right. If he keeps working and fills out a little more through his trunk, he could be a Karl Malone type defender/rebounder with more of a 12-15 PPG scoring potential (as opposed to Karls 25-30).

I'm sure there's a good comparable out there, but I can't think of one at the moment.
I've talked about this with others and suggested a bigger and better version of Kris Humphries. I may be underselling Robinson's offensive potential a bit with that comparison, though.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:59 PM   #832
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Robinson reminds me of Howard a lot; although I'm no professional judge of NBA/NCAA talent.
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Baylor just scares me to death becasue they are so athletic.

I think KU matches up better than MU in that they can bang in the middle but MU has the guard play to just keep coming in waves.
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