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Old 02-07-2012, 09:10 AM  
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Obama embraces PAC and it's money

Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

Published February 07, 2012 | Associated Press

President Barack Obama's campaign is asking top fundraisers to support a Democratic-leaning outside group that is backing the president's re-election bid, reversing Obama's opposition to "super" political action committees, which can spend unlimited amounts of cash to influence elections.

Obama's campaign urged wealthy fundraisers in a Monday night conference call to support Priorities USA, a super PAC led by two former Obama aides that has struggled to compete with the tens of millions of dollars collected by Republican-backed outside groups.

Obama has opposed the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United decision that stripped away some limits on campaign contributions. The new super PACs can't coordinate directly with campaigns, but many have played a major role in the Republican primary contests, raising millions of dollars to use in negative advertising in early contests such as Iowa, South Carolina and Florida.

Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said in an email to supporters Monday that the president's campaign "can't allow for two sets of rules" in which the Republican presidential nominee benefits from "unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm."

"We decided to do this because we can't afford for the work you're doing in your communities, and the grassroots donations you give to support it, to be destroyed by hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads," Messina said.

Messina said senior campaign officials, along with some White House officials and Cabinet members, would attend and speak at fundraising events for Priorities USA but would not directly ask for money. He said Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and first lady Michelle Obama would not be part of the effort and would remain focused on Obama's campaign.

The decision to promote the outside Democratic group came after new fundraising reports revealed a large disparity against Republican super PACs. American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS, two groups tied to Republican strategist Karl Rove, raised $51 million last year while major Democratic groups, including Priorities USA Action, collected $19 million last year.

Republicans criticized the Obama campaign's embrace of the outside groups, calling it a hypocritical shift by Obama after he chided the influence of secret, special-interest money. Obama has previously referred to the money as a "threat to our democracy."

"This is a brazenly cynical move by Barack Obama and his political handlers, who just a year ago had the chutzpah to call outside groups a threat to democracy," said Jonathan Collegio, a spokesman for American Crossroads.

The super PACs have played a major role in the primary contests. In GOP primaries so far, groups working for or against presidential candidates have spent roughly $25 million on TV ads -- about half the nearly $53 million spent on advertising so far to influence voters in the early weeks of the race.

The group supporting Mitt Romney, Restore Our Future, collected $17.9 million in contributions since July, most of which it spent on advertisements supporting Romney or attacking Republican rival Newt Gingrich. A pro-Gingrich group, Winning Our Future, received $11 million from the family of casino mogul Sheldon Adelson.

The new super PACs can't coordinate directly with campaigns, but many that are active in this election are staffed by longtime supporters or former aides of the candidates.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1lgejyCr4
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:44 AM   #2
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Of course he did. Any illusions I had about Obama were washed away a couple of years ago. He is bought and paid for just like his repub counterparts.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:48 AM   #3
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:56 AM   #4
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He only did it because he had to.
Yeah I don't expect this thread to stay on the first page very long.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #5
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Yeah I don't expect this thread to stay on the first page very long.

Neither do I, because there's nothing to see here. The SCOTUS made their decision and unless the Democrats plan to disband, they need to have the same tools in their toolboxes that the Republicans have. Anything else would be monumentally stupid.

You can disagree with a decision, but then take advantage of the "benefits" of it if the only alternative is to be the roadkill of your political opponents.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:49 AM   #6
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Question is why did he bash them day before yesterday then do a 180 overnight?
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #7
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Question is why did he bash them day before yesterday then do a 180 overnight?
See the above response re unilateral disarmament.

Also, and I know that this might be a mindhole blower, but you can simultaneously be against something (i.e., Buffet and favorable taxation of the rich, Ayn Rand and Medicare) and take advantage of it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:57 AM   #8
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He doesn't really want the money, but what can he do?
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:57 AM   #9
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See the above response re unilateral disarmament.

Also, and I know that this might be a mindhole blower, but you can simultaneously be against something (i.e., Buffet and favorable taxation of the rich, Ayn Rand and Medicare) and take advantage of it.
especially if you have ZERO integrity. But, he did what he had to do to win reelection and I get that. That is ALL that matters to today's politicians
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:45 AM   #10
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especially if you have ZERO integrity. But, he did what he had to do to win reelection and I get that. That is ALL that matters to today's politicians
You gotta play on a level playing field, or you are doomed to annihiliation.

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the president's campaign "can't allow for two sets of rules" in which the Republican presidential nominee benefits from "unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm."

Amnorix has it right; you gotta play by the same set of rules as your competition. The Supreme Court screwed the pooch on this one, so if you are looking for someone to blame....start there.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:56 AM   #11
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The Supreme Court screwed the pooch on this one, so if you are looking for someone to blame....start there.
How did they screw the pooch. When you look at the ruling, it's hard to come to any other conclusion than they came up with.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:01 PM   #12
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i have an idea to curb this type of problem. make it illegal to mention your opponent in your ads. the way i see it, there isn't much positive things these guys can say about themselves, while the negative is almost unlimited. take away there negative campaigning and they don't really have a need to spend all that money.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:11 PM   #13
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How did they screw the pooch. When you look at the ruling, it's hard to come to any other conclusion than they came up with.
They've opened the floodgates of unlimited campaign financing to whomever is the preferred candidate of the real plutocracy. I understand that some equate money with "speech," but that's where things started to go wrong. This only entrenches government to the highest bidder even more than ever.

Money is no more "speech" than is sedition, sabotage, or treason. The Court screwed up in the Buckley vs. Valeo....and they compounded the problem with this subsequent atrocity.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #14
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i have an idea to curb this type of problem. make it illegal to mention your opponent in your ads. the way i see it, there isn't much positive things these guys can say about themselves, while the negative is almost unlimited. take away there negative campaigning and they don't really have a need to spend all that money.
There's this thing called the first amendment.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #15
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