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Old 03-08-2012, 12:50 PM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #1606
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Looks like there is already plenty of stuff stacking against him to show that he was the aggressor, so I'd say he's the one that will have to prove he was defending himself.
Well, he is innocent of all crimes until PROVEN guilty. In America (even florida) you are presumed innocent...So the burden of proof is on the prosecution.....

Obviously if he can prove he was standing his ground or defending himself then he won't be convicted of any crime...

Personally I think the defense is brilliant right now. They are just letting Zimmerman get smeared and his name tarnished left and right. It is going to make any evidence against Martin THAT much more powerful when it surfaces on April 10th. They are holding back everything it seems to use it when it will be its most powerful.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #1607
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what in the holy **** are you talking about Pawnmower? Even if he posted on facebook, "hey my ****as I am a blood holla REAL G SHIT" doesn't make it suddenly okay for a neighborhood watch person to hunt him down and shoot him.
Yes, that is exactly what I said.

Look just stop. Talking with you is pointless....I never said that...go back and read what I said.......I said "It could make the prosecution's case very /more difficult" or something like that.

If you go back farther in the thread I actually say IN WORDS that I think Zimmerman is probably guilty of some crime.....but idiots like you would rather just make things up and put words in people's mouths to 'win' on the internet.

Well congrats breh, you win!

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Old 03-25-2012, 07:21 PM   #1608
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Okay but it sure doesn't look like he is, but thanks to a dumb ass law and the fact that the...as you claim.... "aggressor" or "2nd victim" or whatever dumbass side you've taken for this moment can't remove reasonable doubt because he's dead.

This entire thing is a huge mess and if it's handled wrong, the racial tension in that area is going to be thick as hell.

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Yes, that is exactly what I said.

Look just stop. Talking with you is pointless....I never said that...go back and read what I said.......I said "It could make the prosecution's case very /more difficult" or something like that.

If you go back farther in the thread I actually say IN WORDS that I think Zimmerman is probably guilty of some crime.....but idiots like you would rather just make things up and put words in people's mouths to 'win' on the internet.

Well congrats breh, you win!

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Old 03-25-2012, 07:22 PM   #1609
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Okay but it sure doesn't look like he is, but thanks to a dumb ass law and the fact that the...as you claim.... "aggressor" or "2nd victim" or whatever dumbass side you've taken for this moment can't remove reasonable doubt because he's dead.

This entire thing is a huge mess and if it's handled wrong, the racial tension in that area is going to be thick as hell.


Okay good, get out
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:24 PM   #1610
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Yup and the sooner people realize we are all humans and not different groups the better off we'll be.
Does that include Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers and the media who keep referring to Zimmerman as 'white' and 'white Hispanic' or 'white Latino' or some other variation of white?
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:24 PM   #1611
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:28 PM   #1612
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His nose was broken, not just bloody.
OH NOES. Get it?


Zimmerman got his nose broke by a skinny teenager. Heh.
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Who?
Pawn. The last several pages has been littered with his passive-aggressive bullshit.

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Precisely !
Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:29 PM   #1615
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Does that include Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers and the media who keep referring to Zimmerman as 'white' and 'white Hispanic' or 'white Latino' or some other variation of white?
Precisely !

Has he been arrested yet? I haven't heard the latest. And if not there is probably a good reason why that he has not been arrested that the MM chooses to ignore and report.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:33 PM   #1616
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white hispanic? Tell me that term is NOT politically motivated by the Left.

Did they call OMarxist a "black white or white black" in 08?? Or hell the real term for a mix of white/black which is 'mulatto'. Did you hear 'mulatto' in 08 ?
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Precisely !

Has he been arrested yet? I haven't heard the latest. And if not there is probably a good reason why that he has not been arrested that the MM chooses to ignore and report.
Of course there is. You are enabled by the law to put down a teenager that busts your nose and puts you on your ass after harassing and stalking said teenager. I assume this applies to adults as well, but I'll leave the inticacies to the lawyers.

Oh, and the kid was a gang banger. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Martin pass out at 31 Flavors last night after doing a bunch of gang stuff. I guess it's pretty serious.
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Oh check this out:

Same source as the thug photos:



Theres some more about fighting too, I think...

Clearly he seems to be asking dude to buy weed tho, correct?
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The problem with this case is we think we have all the facts but we don't and we're going on media reports. I'm going to withhold judgement until all the facts are presented.

The racial tension in this country is disgusting. I think the media plays into it a bit but we also have uniformed morons and a society that's built upon tearing others down. I'll say this about Al Sharpton: He's no Dr.King and to call him a civil rights "leader" is an insult. That man does nothing but adds more fuel to the fire.
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