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Old 03-08-2012, 12:50 PM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-27-2012, 06:05 PM   #1861
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I'm not sure why so many people think that him being Mexican negates the race aspect. Hispanics are capable of hating black people too.

I'm not claiming its race motivated. The only thing that would hint at that is the muttered comment on the 911 call, that's hard to clearly distinguish.

I just don't get the "he's hispanic so it can't be racist" type of comments.
The problem is once again the media and activist groups are trying to blame 'evil whitey' when it wasn't a white guy.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:07 PM   #1862
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Listen to it, he says PUNKS very very clearly...Unless you have some kind of hearing impediment there is no other possible thing it could be.

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Old 03-27-2012, 06:09 PM   #1863
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:10 PM   #1864
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:31 PM   #1866
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Listen to it, he says PUNKS very very clearly...Unless you have some kind of hearing impediment there is no other possible thing it could be.
I don't give a shit what he said to be honest it really doesn't have anything to do with the actual act.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:48 PM   #1867
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I ahve stayed out of this because I had a feeling the original story was not accurate. Now after some time it is coming out that this may have been an act of self-defense and that the alleged innocent black kid may not be so innocent.

That being said the fallout is idiotic and shameful. Pro basketball players wearing hoodies, the typical African American Leaderless group chanting up hate. People looting and such. Blaming white people when a white person was never even invovled. Trying to blame conservatives when the shooter is a registered democrat.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:54 PM   #1868
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I ahve stayed out of this because I had a feeling the original story was not accurate. Now after some time it is coming out that this may have been an act of self-defense and that the alleged innocent black kid may not be so innocent.

That being said the fallout is idiotic and shameful. Pro basketball players wearing hoodies, the typical African American Leaderless group chanting up hate. People looting and such. Blaming white people when a white person was never even invovled. Trying to blame conservatives when the shooter is a registered democrat.
Yes. But momma will be sellin tee shirts and Trayvon bobble heads as a way to have some closure
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:04 PM   #1869
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This is some ****ED UP SHIT, they aren't sure if the racist neighborhood watch idiot should be arrested? If anything, local gangs might take notice of this and start shooting up that neighborhood or just random white neighborhoods. I could never live in the south, it's ridiculous. The guy shoots an innocent teen walking to the store to buy skittles. Should be life in prison, that's cold blood man.
Florida isn't the south in the traditional sense.That would be the northern part of the state which is more like southern Georgia. The rest is full of northerners.

I'd also suggest your deciding guilt based on the race is what was done during the Jim Crow era. Let's not bring that back but rely on facts and evidence for this.
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I ahve stayed out of this because I had a feeling the original story was not accurate. Now after some time it is coming out that this may have been an act of self-defense and that the alleged innocent black kid may not be so innocent.

That being said the fallout is idiotic and shameful. Pro basketball players wearing hoodies, the typical African American Leaderless group chanting up hate. People looting and such. Blaming white people when a white person was never even invovled. Trying to blame conservatives when the shooter is a registered democrat.


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Old 03-27-2012, 10:57 PM   #1871
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Yes. But momma will be sellin tee shirts and Trayvon bobble heads as a way to have some closure
Not suprised your racist ass showed up.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:06 PM   #1872
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So let me get this straight. Its okay for a guy to pick and fight, and then when he is supposedly is getting bested by the person he picked the fight with, its okay to kill that person ? And not only do we not blame the killer, but we blame the kid for being out late at night ? Because if he would of not craved skittles none of this would of happened. Its not Zimmerman fault, its the kids fault. The kid should not of had a hooded on and should of not been out late at night for Zimmerman to profile. Its the kids fault Zimmerman kept following the kid for "walking late and night while black" even when the dispatcher told him not to. And when Zimmerman tries to detain the kid for "Walking late at night while black" and the kid tries to flee and fight of Zimmerman ( the same thing you tell your own kids to do when a stranger tries to accost them) and when Zimmerman bites of more than he can chew..again its the kids fault and he should die . You people are idiots. All of us at 17 did stupid shit. You cant judge this kid my a few pictures or fights at school. How many of you got into a little bit of trouble as a kid ? Zimmerman needs to be in Jail ,and if you're okay with him being free, then I hope the next person he does this to is one of your family members.
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So let me get this straight. Its okay for a guy to pick and fight, and then when he is supposedly is getting bested by the person he picked the fight with, its okay to kill that person ? And not only do we not blame the killer, but we blame the kid for being out late at night ? Because if he would of not craved skittles none of this would of happened. Its not Zimmerman fault, its the kids fault. The kid should not of had a hooded on and should of not been out late at night for Zimmerman to profile. Its the kids fault Zimmerman kept following the kid for "walking late and night while black" even when the dispatcher told him not to. And when Zimmerman tries to detain the kid for "Walking late at night while black" and the kid tries to flee and fight of Zimmerman ( the same thing you tell your own kids to do when a stranger tries to accost them) and when Zimmerman bites of more than he can chew..again its the kids fault and he should die . You people are idiots. All of us at 17 did stupid shit. You cant judge this kid my a few pictures or fights at school. How many of you got into a little bit of trouble as a kid ? Zimmerman needs to be in Jail ,and if you're okay with him being free, then I hope the next person he does this to is one of your family members.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:15 PM   #1874
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You are a ****ing idiot.
Of course I am because I dont agree with your stupid ass. So I guess now we train our kids not to fight off strangers right ? We tell them don't fight of strangers because when they kill you , they wont go to jail and you will be blamed for it. He was a CHILD, he did the same ****ing thing we tell kids to do with strangers....fight them off.
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Of course I am because I dont agree with your stupid ass. So I guess now we train our kids not to fight off strangers right ? We tell them don't fight of strangers because when they kill you , they wont go to jail and you will be blamed for it. He was a CHILD, he did the same ****ing thing we tell kids to do with strangers....fight them off.
No, you are a ****ing idiot for continuing to bring race/ethnicity into it.

Go **** yourself.
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