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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-28-2012, 02:56 PM   #1981
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Not yet - but now since they are calling him a "White" Hispanic - they might... I can't make this shit up if I tried...
This tells you how desperate the WH and MMM are in taking the attention off of gas prices while continuing the racist/class warfare card in hopes his polls start rising?
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:58 PM   #1982
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Oh, I'd say it's close. It refers to Spain. That is part of Europe. Those would be white Europeans.
I'm Hispanic, I am only the second person in my family to be born off the island since the late 1600's. My ancestors were a mix of Spaniard, Taino Indian, and African. We haven't had any ties to Spain (as a family) in over 4 centuries.

That would be like calling random white guy a European because in some distant past his family immigrated here from Norway.

*edit for clarification - Spain still ruled PR until 1898 but had a similar relationship as the US currently holds with Guam.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:59 PM   #1983
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The more Obama keeps making these overtone statements in favor of TM being a victim the more he pushes the hispanic vote to the right
Yup! I said so elsewhere. He needs to watch his mouth. 'Cept he isn't. If Obama exploits this to get the black vote out, because many are trapped in higher unemployment at 16%, are in despair and disappointed with him, then he just will lose the Hispanic vote. The Hispanic minority and blacks have their own tension and conflicts with each other competing for being the largest minority. ( outside of women). In fact a bill in Georgia was defeated that would give Hispanics many of the preferential treatments blacks get. Some black legislators spoke out against it because they were not deemed a "racial" minority. They are mixed race, just not all of them.
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Don't forget he was unarmed.
You can kill with your hands especially when they are pounding your head into the concrete and GZ has the evidence aaaaaaaaalll over him
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:02 PM   #1985
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'Cept he isn't.
Because at his core he is a 'community organizer'. And we are watching it right before our very eyes
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:05 PM   #1986
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I'm Hispanic, I am only the second person in my family to be born off the island since the late 1600's. My ancestors were a mix of Spaniard, Taino Indian, and African. We haven't had any ties to Spain in over 4 centuries.

That would be like calling random white guy a European because in some distant past his family immigrated here from Norway.
So what. The word has a definition and that is indeed what it means whether the ties to Spain still exist or not. That's like saying America roots are not tied to Europe or England in most parts of the country. Besides, you just proved my point that many are biracial or tri-racial and that your part Spaniard. It's part of your ancestry.


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Root of the word is from Latin Hispnicus, from Hispnia, Spain.
From wikipedia: Hispania was the Roman name for the whole territory of the Iberian Peninsula

Right off of Google top of the list page:

his·pan·ic/hiˈspanik/
Adjective:
Of or relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, esp. those of Latin America.
Noun:
A Spanish-speaking person living in the US, esp. one of Latin American descent.


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His·pan·ic (h-spnk)
adj.
1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.
2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
n.
1. A Spanish-speaking person.
2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
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I still can't get over the irony of the black panther's and others calling for a lynch mob to get this guy.

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Don't forget he was unarmed.
Not necessarily relevant either. Not without all the facts and the whole picture that is.
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I still can't get over the irony of the black panther's and others calling for a lynch mob to get this guy.

Hazel Jones has 2 Vaginas, this story has 2 assholes.
Well, look at what they believe:

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Although the NBPP says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and "revolution" as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, it promotes the Kawaida theory of Maulana Karenga, which includes black unity, collective action, and cooperative economics.[9] The NBPP says it fights the oppression of black and brown people and that its members are on top of current issues facing black communities across the world.

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Just wtf does cooperative economics mean then? Sounds like like another form of collectivism, just like Marx, since it's anti-capitalist and calls for cooperative economics. I say this is just some re-branding going on a la Newspeak.

They also claim to fight for "brown" people...well that would apply to many Hispanics.
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Roam around unsupervised? That's what you call a teenager walking to a store to buy a snack?
If he can't be trusted to go to school without having drugs in his backpack, stealing jewelry, and taking a swing at a bus driver, then he can't be trusted to leave the house after dark by himself.
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So what. The word has a definition and that is indeed what it means whether the ties to Spain still exist or not. That's like saying America roots are not tied to Europe or England in most parts of the country. Besides, you just proved my point that many are biracial or tri-racial and that your part Spaniard. It's part of your ancestry.


From Free Dictionary:

Root of the word is from Latin Hispnicus, from Hispnia, Spain.
From wikipedia: Hispania was the Roman name for the whole territory of the Iberian Peninsula

Right off of Google top of the list page:

his·pan·ic/hiˈspanik/
Adjective:
Of or relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, esp. those of Latin America.
Noun:
A Spanish-speaking person living in the US, esp. one of Latin American descent.


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His·pan·ic (h-spnk)
adj.
1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.
2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
n.
1. A Spanish-speaking person.
2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
Perhaps we are miscommunicating. Yes, just like the US, we are tied to Europe. Basic history.

To say that Hispanic is just another version of European is wrong through. We have our own culture and heritage that is mostly unrelated to old Mother Spain... just like White America does.
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Perhaps we are miscommunicating. Yes, just like the US, we are tied to Europe. Basic history.
I think we are.
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To say that Hispanic is just another version of European is wrong through.
Well, I didn't say exactly that. Someone else did. I pointed out that there is some relationship.

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We have our own culture and heritage that is mostly unrelated to old Mother Spain... just like White America does.
Just saying it refers to your ancestry which has to do with Spain. They speak Spanish in most of those places too. Just like we speak English in America.


Incidentally, I get free Hispanic magazines sent to be for trial readings because I have a Spanish last name. But I am Sicilian. I suspect this has to do with Sicily being conquered and ruled by Spain for a period...although the island has been a melting pot of its own.
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