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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-30-2012, 07:36 AM   #2146
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What makes you internet Bruce Lee’s think drawing a weapon while on the ground, in a scuffle is such an insurmountable task?
Travon's outer clothing should have powder burns and other such residue on it then, right?
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:41 AM   #2147
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Yeah I remember all those on the right defending Casey Anthony
Was there a right/left split on how that case was viewed? I didn't follow it closely at all, but I don't remember opinions breaking down along partisan lines.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:48 AM   #2148
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Travon's outer clothing should have powder burns and other such residue on it then, right?
Are you saying there aren’t powder burns or residue on Trayvon’s clothes? Because this would be the first I’ve heard of that.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:53 AM   #2149
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It's too bad there needs to be sides taken in a situation like this. It's a tragedy that shouldn't have happened, major mistakes made by both people involved, and sounds like it could've been avoided.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:55 AM   #2150
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It's too bad there needs to be sides taken in a situation like this. It's a tragedy that shouldn't have happened, major mistakes made by both people involved, and sounds like it could've been avoided.
Agreed, it’s just a shitty situation all around.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:13 AM   #2151
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is that a swastika tat?

really, the guy should have been booked. let the prosecutors office handle this. that is SOP and that's why the hoodie movement came to existence.

I don't see any evidence this guy was beaten. the alleged mark on his head could be nothing, it certainly isn't a "head trauma" indication as their is no blood or swelling visible in the foto.

If you've ever hit the concrete with your head, you know this is not that.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:18 AM   #2152
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Just a matter of putting your booger hook on the bang button and squeezing...
Most people are too afraid to keep one in the pipe, if GZ had not kept one in the pipe that day he could be dead or eating babyfood the rest of his life...
I have thought about that. I have a Kel Tek and I do NOT keep one in the pipe. I'm afraid to. If I am in a situation where I actually have to draw...then holy shit...it's going DOWN! I'd imagine my heart is gonna be just about jumping outta my chest. Therefore I'd think the chance of accidentally shooting myself in the ass as I'm pulling it out of my britches is a very real possibility. But if a 6ft 3 young punk is on top of me...I'll probably regret that decision....cause how the hell am I gonna get one loaded while my ass is being kicked....
decisions decisions.....

(why don't they just put safetys on the damn things??)
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:19 AM   #2153
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Well the lead detective saw the wounds in all their glory, and still felt like Zimmermans story didn't jive and wanted to arrest him.

But he probably doesn't have the facts like us BB Sherlocks.

Not enough evidence to convict isn't the same thing as innocent.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:27 AM   #2154
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Well the lead detective saw the wounds in all their glory, and still felt like Zimmermans story didn't jive and wanted to arrest him.

But he probably doesn't have the facts like us BB Sherlocks.
His seniors, more then one, overruled him. Has to do with what the law says too. How do the facts fit that law.

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Old 03-30-2012, 08:30 AM   #2155
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What makes you internet Bruce Lee’s think drawing a weapon while on the ground, in a scuffle is such an insurmountable task?
what gives a NW dork the right to scuffle? detain? no, he has to obey the law just like cops are supposed to do and everyone else. you don't have a right to detain and he doesn't either. the task of NW is to "watch". duh.

this dude is a yahoo, I'm pretty sure this is going to end badly for r8er and the rest of you fascist toddlers, but as usual you guys got the jump on whining & distorting.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:36 AM   #2156
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what gives a NW dork the right to scuffle? detain? no, he has to obey the law just like cops are supposed to do and everyone else. you don't have a right to detain and he doesn't either. the task of NW is to "watch". duh.

this dude is a yahoo, I'm pretty sure this is going to end badly for r8er and the rest of you fascist toddlers, but as usual you guys got the jump on whining & distorting.
That's pretty funny since the original story portrayed an evil Archie Bunker gunning down skittle loving baby faced Trayvon in cold blood for WWB. Now we've got a hispanic getting his ass kicked by a thug and shooting him to for fear of his safety. So who got the jump on distorting the facts?
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:48 AM   #2157
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new pic released of Trayvon just before the incident.

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Old 03-30-2012, 08:52 AM   #2158
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I have thought about that. I have a Kel Tek and I do NOT keep one in the pipe. I'm afraid to. If I am in a situation where I actually have to draw...then holy shit...it's going DOWN! I'd imagine my heart is gonna be just about jumping outta my chest. Therefore I'd think the chance of accidentally shooting myself in the ass as I'm pulling it out of my britches is a very real possibility. But if a 6ft 3 young punk is on top of me...I'll probably regret that decision....cause how the hell am I gonna get one loaded while my ass is being kicked....
decisions decisions.....

(why don't they just put safetys on the damn things??)
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:56 AM   #2159
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what gives a NW dork the right to scuffle? detain? no, he has to obey the law just like cops are supposed to do and everyone else. you don't have a right to detain and he doesn't either. the task of NW is to "watch". duh.

this dude is a yahoo, I'm pretty sure this is going to end badly for r8er and the rest of you fascist toddlers, but as usual you guys got the jump on whining & distorting.
So he was detaining the boy now? That's news to me. I thought he went back to his car and somehow they both encountered each other again and got into a fight.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:57 AM   #2160
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new pic released of Trayvon just before the incident.



Yeah, them passing around that original picture is disgusting.
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