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Old 03-08-2012, 12:50 PM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:35 PM   #2311
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By zimmerman's own 911 call, we know Martin started to run away.

We either have to assume Zimmerman pursued, or Martin changed his mind.
Yes, those are only two of the possibilities. The bottom line is that when we list the known facts, we shouldn't mix in assumptions even if we think they're very logical or most reasonable.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:36 PM   #2312
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Not looking bad for a guy who was on the brink of death or whatever fantasy some want to conjure.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/georg...lance-16024475

George Zimmerman Doesn’t Look Bloodied or Bruised on This Security Tape
Newly released security camera footage (video link) of George Zimmerman being led into the Sanford police station appears to contradict reports that he had been violently attacked prior to shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

While the video, first obtained by ABC News, is not of the highest quality, it certainly seems as though a handcuffed Zimmerman is in pretty normal, even tip-top, shape.

Police reports claim Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose—his lawyer alleges it was broken (NY Times link)—and suffering from a swollen lip and bloody lacerations to the back of his head by the time cops arrived at the scene.

Zimmerman was tended at the scene by paramedics but did not go to a hospital.

His lawyer's chair recently provided no answer when it was asked by interviewer Lawrence O'Donnell "Do you have photographs of your client's broken nose [from the night of the incident]?"

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:38 PM   #2313
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Unless you're throwing out eyewitness testimony that says the multiple scuffles occurred in the same place, on a grassy area. That contradicts Zimmerman's story that Trayvon punched him, slammed his head on the pavement, and a scuffle ensued on the concrete in which Zimmerman had his head slammed multiple times. How was Zimmerman getting his head slammed into pavement if there was no pavement? And why was Zimmerman in that grassy area in the first place, unless he was trespassing in an area he had no business being in?

Let's also go through timelines. 7pm, Zimmerman calls 911. He claims he was on his way to the grocery store and then started to follow Trayvon on foot. That means he is clearly telling us that he was going to the grocery store only to be diverted by pursuit of Trayvon (which he claims he did on foot, then stopped after the 911 claim. That's what he alleges). Trayvon placed a call to his girlfriend between 7:10-7:14. It's hard to imagine the confrontation happened before that time. By the time he hangs up, that means he had probably 10-15 minutes to get back to his car. From what we've heard, the scene of the crime is far away from Zimmerman's car, which means Zimmerman was following Trayvon on foot for a very long distance. VERY long (10-15 minute walk PLUS the distance between the crime scene and his car). Yikes. If his story holds true, you're talking about a guy who was following Trayvon for a good half hour. He also tells the police where his car is parked, and then tells 911 to call him back so he can tell them where he's at. If Zimmerman was truly intending to walk back to his SUV, isn't it reasonable to expect that the police would meet him at his car?

You call these assumptions because you are placing the burden of proof on Trayvon, not Zimmerman and the police. I'm looking at it the other way around. I am challenging Zimmerman to make his story hang together and, sorry, right now it just doesn't.
No, I call them assumptions because that's what they are.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:44 PM   #2314
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Well, the Seminole County Grand Jury will be called to session on Tuesday, April 10, 2012. I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this. I can hardly wait to see the evidence and hear the actual witness testimony.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:49 PM   #2315
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:03 PM   #2316
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I will never forget the LA Riots over Rodney King when the news crew was watching and talking to random looters...

One Mexican dude had an armful uf stuff and said he was doing all of this for Martin Luther King
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I will never forget the LA Riots over Rodney King when the news crew was watching and talking to random looters...

One Mexican dude had an armful uf stuff and said he was doing all of this for Martin Luther King
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Probably a Raiders fan.
No he had 3 teeth and a Marlboro in his mouth, I am sure he was a Cheap fan
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:47 PM   #2319
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With riots in vogue around the world I'd expect them.

Look at this Rap Song Charges 'White Man' With Murder: 'Strap On Your AK's… Let’s Start a Riot'

Essentially, Obama WH can't run on the economy, health care, tax cuts, or budget reductions successfully. So why not incite racial tensions instead to the point of rioting. The socialist left was already mobilizing along with the unions before this incident but this provides the perfect crisis to exploit. They're being very active and the media is helping them. Before any "investigation had taken place, and only rumors and haphazard incomplete reports were available, the media was already spinning the story of the white Hispanic and the African American teenager. Whether Zimmerman is guilty or not, whether Trayvon Martin initiated the assault or not, is of no consequence now."

Even the Department Of Homeland Security is buying 450 million new bullets. What for?
Sounds like they think somethings up and they mean business. After they've already defined Constitutionalists as terrorists, the Tea Party as racist ....why not take it all a step further.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-im...of-ammo-2012-3
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:59 PM   #2320
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Yeah I remember all those on the right defending Casey Anthony
To be honest with you, I've said elsewhere, that this is the same thing, only it has a political tone with the racial divide. So it's like a lynch mob. Nancy Grace is feeding it too. When it comes down to it, there may just not be enough evidence to get at the whole truth, like the Anthony case. But everyone will still have an opinion about who is guilty.
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To be honest with you, I've said elsewhere, that this is the same thing, only it has a political tone with the racial divide. So it's like a lynch mob. Nancy Grace is feeding it too. When it comes down to it, there may just not be enough evidence to get at the whole truth, like the Anthony case. But everyone will still have an opinion about who is guilty.
Except Anthony was GUILTY! I didn't seriously follow her case, but wasn't she just like, "I dunno." when initially asked where her kid went?

While I feel Zimmerman at the very least acted the fool and should be held accountable on some level, April 10th could show that this wasn't in cold blood just as Z claimed. The inquiry needs to be top notch though, which it should have been in the first place.

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This was not a fight, but an attack. The funeral director mentioned nothing about Trayvon looking like he had been in a "fight", remember.
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Do we even know that he followed and confronted Martin? It's a reasonable assumption, but is it any more than that at this point?
The only solid fact we have right now is that there is a Black Democrat President in office who can't afford to run on his record in the upcoming election.
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You know how I know you've never been in one either?
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