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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-01-2012, 09:38 AM   #2326
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:55 AM   #2327
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The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, the Orlando Sentinel reported Saturday.

Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told the Sentinel that he used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #2328
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Quite the exaggeration there that really is a extremely piss poor effort to make a joke. Don't give up the paper route.

In that photo Manson was 14yrs old. The Helter Skelter murders took place when he was almost 35 yrs old. A difference of 20 plus yrs. The 3-4yrs difference in photos the the media presented to the public of Trayvon isn't even in the same realm of reality that you would undoubtably like to convey.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:49 AM   #2329
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Quite the exaggeration there that really is a extremely piss poor effort to make a joke. Don't give up the paper route.

In that photo Manson was 14yrs old. The Helter Skelter murders took place when he was almost 35 yrs old. A difference of 20 plus yrs. The 3-4yrs difference in photos the the media presented to the public of Trayvon isn't even in the same realm of reality that you would undoubtably like to convey.
You can't possibly be defending the use of Trayvon's childhood photo in the early reporting juxtaposed with Zimmerman's mugshot. You aren't serious.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:54 AM   #2330
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:57 AM   #2331
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You can't possibly be defending the use of Trayvon's childhood photo in the early reporting juxtaposed with Zimmerman's mugshot. You aren't serious.
Oh he is though ! Rubbersponge must not have kids because a teen at 13-14 grows exponentially from that age to 17.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:03 AM   #2332
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Quite the exaggeration there that really is a extremely piss poor effort to make a joke. Don't give up the paper route.

In that photo Manson was 14yrs old. The Helter Skelter murders took place when he was almost 35 yrs old. A difference of 20 plus yrs. The 3-4yrs difference in photos the the media presented to the public of Trayvon isn't even in the same realm of reality that you would undoubtably like to convey.

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #2333
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Question... is there any logical reason why the police didn't secure the crime scene? Is there any reason why they wouldn't have questioned witnesses at the scene? Is there any justification for them leaving Martin in the morgue as John Doe for 3 days despite the mother reporting her son missing?

I don't know police procedure. But it sure seems to me that of all the mistakes made by Zimmerman, Trayvon, and Martin... the police didn't seem to do a very good job, which is a lot less excusable.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:41 AM   #2334
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:58 AM   #2335
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:05 PM   #2336
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He's right and you're FOS.
If you're hitting someone, you knuckles at minimum are going to be swollen. If Zimmerman's story added up there would be trauma to Trayvon's hands. No indications of that though according to the funeral director.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:07 PM   #2337
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Question... is there any logical reason why the police didn't secure the crime scene? Is there any reason why they wouldn't have questioned witnesses at the scene? Is there any justification for them leaving Martin in the morgue as John Doe for 3 days despite the mother reporting her son missing?

I don't know police procedure. But it sure seems to me that of all the mistakes made by Zimmerman, Trayvon, and Martin... the police didn't seem to do a very good job, which is a lot less excusable.
This is the biggest issue IMO. We'll never have a complete picture of what more than likely happened because the police completely ****ed up their responsibilities.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:17 PM   #2338
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If you're hitting someone, you knuckles at minimum are going to be swollen. If Zimmerman's story added up there would be trauma to Trayvon's hands. No indications of that though according to the funeral director.

knuckles won't swell if blood isn't flowing in the body
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:26 PM   #2339
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I really can't believe a ****ing thing the media says on this case anymore. They have proven without a doubt how ****ing biased they are in this case.

First they pull out mugshots of Zimmerman and put it up against a photo of Martin that is 3 to 4 years old. And when you go from 13 or 14 to 17 that is a huge ****ing difference.

They try to make Zimmerman look like the devil while making Martin look like a little saint when that clearly was not the case.

Then they try to make some claim about Zimmerman saying "****ing coons" on some distorted tape. And several people claim on here and elsewhere you can clearly hear "****ing punks". Whatever you hear it is very muffled and hard to make out much.

Last the media shows some grainy video of Zimmerman at the police station and try to make a claim of how he hasn't been hurt after the supposed attack. But after futher analysis by non biased groups you could cleary see a huge gash down the back of his head.

Now here is one more thing they are trying to use that will probably be shown to be false as well. **** the media at this point. They have made this into something it is not. They all deserve a red hot poker up their anus.
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Um, that's backwards. They would use the picture that makes him look the most menacing.

The analogy in that picture makes no sense. It's his victims that would get the innocent looking pictures.
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