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Old 03-08-2012, 12:50 PM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-05-2012, 01:13 PM   #2746
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CNN ENHANCES ZIMMERMAN 911 CALL AGAIN — AND REPORTER NOW DOUBTS RACIAL SLUR USED
“Now it does sound less like that racial slur. … From listening in this room, and this is a state-of-the-art room, it doesn’t sound like that slur anymore. It sounds like … we‘re hearing the swear word at first and then the word ’cold.’ And the reason some say that would be relevant, is because it was unseasonably cold in Florida that night and raining.”
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:24 PM   #2747
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I know some been saying you're gonna hear what they tell you to hear. I ain't buying that BS. that K sound is there so damn strong it's like it slams your head into the concrete! every single time I hear it.....it's punks. why? dude...that's what it is.

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Old 04-05-2012, 06:49 PM   #2748
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it is absolutely PUNKS. that K sound is very distinct. wonder who even came up with that bullshit coon crap first? ABC? NBC?
how about THIS bullshit. anyone seen the cover of people? what is this crap...his 6th grade school pic. ****ing media bullshit. go get 'em black panthers! zimmerman killed a toddler!

He says "It's ****ing cold". The first word has been ignored, and it's extremely important, and that's the "It's".
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:16 PM   #2749
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He says "It's ****ing cold". The first word has been ignored, and it's extremely important, and that's the "It's".
depends on the meaning of "it's"...
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:24 PM   #2750
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Here is for all the dumbasses that thought Zimmerman used a racial slur...


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Sanford, Florida (CNN) -- George Zimmerman told his lawyers that he whispered "punks," not a racial slur, in the moments before he shot Trayvon Martin, his attorneys told CNN on Thursday.

Some people interpreted the police recording of Zimmerman's call to 911 as evidence the fatal shooting was racially motivated.

Zimmerman attorneys Hal Ulrig and Craig Sonner told CNN their client told them that he said, "F---ing punks."

Forensic audio expert Tom Owen, who analyzed 911 recordings, agreed the garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not the racial slur some people said they heard

When Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he said he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks."

CNN also enhanced the sound of the 911 call, and several members of CNN's editorial staff repeatedly reviewed the tape but could reach no consensus on whether Zimmerman used a slur.

Martin's family and supporters say Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, profiled Martin, who was black, as "suspicious" and ignored a police dispatcher's request not to follow him. Martin did not live in Sanford, Florida, but he was there with his father, whose fiancee lives in Zimmerman's neighborhood.

Zimmerman, 28, fatally shot Martin, 17, on February 26. The case has triggered a nationwide debate about Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, race and racial profiling.

While Zimmerman's attorneys may welcome Owen's analysis of their client's 911 call, they disagree with his conclusions about what is heard on another 911 recording.

Zimmerman has said he was yelling for help, according to his family members and his account to authorities, as first reported by The Orlando Sentinel and later confirmed by Sanford police.

But Martin's relatives, including his cousin Ronquavis Fulton, have said they are certain the voice heard on the 911 call is Martin's.

Owen and another audio expert, Ed Primeau, analyzed the recording for the Sentinel using different techniques, and they said they don't believe it is Zimmerman who is heard yelling in the background of one 911 call. They compared the screams with Zimmerman's voice, as recorded in a 911 call he made minutes earlier describing a "suspicious" black male.

"There's a huge chance that this is not Zimmerman's voice," said Primeau, a longtime audio engineer who is listed as an expert in recorded evidence by the American College of Forensic Examiners International.

"After 28 years of doing this, I would put my reputation on the line and say this is not George Zimmerman screaming."

Owen also said he does not believe the screams came from Zimmerman.

He does not have a sample of Martin's voice for comparison, he said.

He cited software that is widely used in Europe and has become recently accepted in the United States that examines characteristics such as pitch and the space between spoken words to analyze voices.

Using it, he found a 48% likelihood the voice is Zimmerman's. At least 60% is necessary to feel confident that two samples are from the same source, he told CNN on Monday -- meaning it's unlikely it was Zimmerman who can be heard yelling.

The experts, both of whom said they have testified in cases involving audio analysis, stressed that they cannot say who was screaming.

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Old 04-05-2012, 07:47 PM   #2751
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Here is for all the dumbasses that thought Zimmerman used a racial slur...




The case is getting thinner and thinner by the minute. **** the media.
slur purr, who gives a shit (rhetorically speaking of course)?

a slur didn't kill the kid...

what if he did (and i don't think he did) use a racial slur?

does it change the fact that z shot the kid?

is the kid more dead if racism played a part?

this whole race angle sucks donkey dong...
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Zimmerman wanted to kill young black children his entire life. Dirty bastard.
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slur purr, who gives a shit (rhetorically speaking of course)?

a slur didn't kill the kid...

what if he did (and i don't think he did) use a racial slur?

does it change the fact that z shot the kid?

is the kid more dead if racism played a part?

this whole race angle sucks donkey dong...
It makes a huge difference. There were a lot of people trying to make it out that Zimmerman did this because the kid was black. They were trying to prove it by making shit up.

Would this even be in the national news if Zimmerman was a black guy or if Treyvon was white or a white Hispanic? No it wouldn't be. This is all being played out because of the race angle.
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It makes a huge difference. There were a lot of people trying to make it out that Zimmerman did this because the kid was black. They were trying to prove it by making shit up.
CP MOB - A WHITE GUY KILLED A BLACK KID
reality - Another minority killed a black kid
CP MOB - HE WAS JUST A BABY
reality - Media using old picture to play on sympathy
CP MOB - HE WAS ONLY GUILTY OF WALKING IN HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD "WHILE BLACK"
reality - He was visiting his dad at his father's girlfriend's house and he had just arrived.
CP MOB - HE WAS A GOOD KID
reality - He had been suspended multiple times from school for drugs and theft. He even slugged a school bus driver. He also though of himself as a little OG.
CP MOB - YOU CAN HEAR ZIMMERMAN USE A SLUR AND NBC FOOTAGE POINTS OUT THAT HE MADE A POINT TO POINT OUT HE WAS BLACK
reality - Zimmerman didn't use a slur. In fact, he mentored black kids. Oh, BTW... NBC edited the footage to play on the racial angle.
CP MOB - LOOK AT THE VIDEO... THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF DAMAGE TO ZIMMERMAN
reality - Video was edited in a manner as to hide the damage to the back of his head. The gash is plainly visible in other shots.

Dude... no matter what comes of this, people will be absolutely convinced that there is no possible alternative other than Zimmerman was looking for blood last night and killed a poor sweet defenseless child who did nothing to deserve it.

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CP MOB - A WHITE GUY KILLED A BLACK KID
reality - Another minority killed a black kid
CP MOB - HE WAS JUST A BABY
reality - Media using old picture to play on sympathy
CP MOB - HE WAS ONLY GUILTY OF WALKING IN HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD "WHILE BLACK"
reality - He was visiting his dad at his father's girlfriend's house and he had just arrived.
CP MOB - HE WAS A GOOD KID
reality - He had been suspended multiple times from school for drugs and theft. He even slugged a school bus driver. He also though of himself as a little OG.
CP MOB - YOU CAN HEAR ZIMMERMAN USE A SLUR AND NBC FOOTAGE POINTS OUT THAT HE MADE A POINT TO POINT OUT HE WAS BLACK
reality - Zimmerman didn't use a slur. In fact, he mentored black kids. Oh, BTW... NBC edited the footage to play on the racial angle.
CP MOB - LOOK AT THE VIDEO... THERE IS NO SIGNS OF DAMAGE TO ZIMMERMAN
reality - Video was edited in a manner as to hide the damage to the back of his head. The gash is plainly visible in other shots.

Dude... no matter what comes of this, people will be absolutely convinced that there is no possible alternative other than Zimmerman was looking for blood last night and killed a poor sweet defenseless child who did nothing to deserve it.
Gotta love the media!!!
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Whether or not Zimmerman did anything illegal, everyone of you dipshits that tried to make this into a race thing needs a hard kick in the nuts. It was never about race.
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CP MOB - A WHITE GUY KILLED A BLACK KID
reality - Another minority killed a black kid
CP MOB - HE WAS JUST A BABY
reality - Media using old picture to play on sympathy
CP MOB - HE WAS ONLY GUILTY OF WALKING IN HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD "WHILE BLACK"
reality - He was visiting his dad at his father's girlfriend's house and he had just arrived.
CP MOB - HE WAS A GOOD KID
reality - He had been suspended multiple times from school for drugs and theft. He even slugged a school bus driver. He also though of himself as a little OG.
CP MOB - YOU CAN HEAR ZIMMERMAN USE A SLUR AND NBC FOOTAGE POINTS OUT THAT HE MADE A POINT TO POINT OUT HE WAS BLACK
reality - Zimmerman didn't use a slur. In fact, he mentored black kids. Oh, BTW... NBC edited the footage to play on the racial angle.
CP MOB - LOOK AT THE VIDEO... THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF DAMAGE TO ZIMMERMAN
reality - Video was edited in a manner as to hide the damage to the back of his head. The gash is plainly visible in other shots.

Dude... no matter what comes of this, people will be absolutely convinced that there is no possible alternative other than Zimmerman was looking for blood last night and killed a poor sweet defenseless child who did nothing to deserve it.

okay, dude -- you are the example of black & white world. you don't know the diff between a race that was enslaved by whitie and a race that is largely and quite contemporarily employed to handle garbage and pretty much existed peacefully next door, with exeption to the mexi rev period. you have no ****ing clue how your race relates to the races you mention. none.
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This whole thing has me so pissed off. I would really like to go punch every media guy or gal that tried to make this into a race issue. They are the ones that deserve everyones hostility. They have twisted a lot of peoples minds into believing shit that just isn't true. It is comepletely asinine.

I almost forgot, **** Jesse and Al too. I just can't believe that the black community still allows them to be their voice in the media. They are doing nothing but making things worse and holding back the black community.
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okay, dude -- you are the example of black & white world. you don't know the diff between a race that was enslaved by whitie and a race that is largely and quite contemporarily employed to handle garbage and pretty much existed peacefully next door, with exeption to the mexi rev period. you have no ****ing clue how your race relates to the races you mention. none.
I am anxiously awaiting pr's reply to this.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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