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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-15-2012, 08:44 AM   #3016
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it is literally 'FREE' with NO ACCOUNTABILITY for that particular race who can behave anyway they feel and get just get their wrist slapped.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:12 AM   #3017
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:47 AM   #3018
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:55 AM   #3019
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #3020
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:19 PM   #3021
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Nothing he did that night was dependent on him being a Neighborhood Watch captain. He was on his way to the store, he wasn't patrolling for some organized neighborhood militia.
For as much as you've reamed me for making assumptions... awfully huge assumption to believe that Zimmerman was on his way to Target. There is zero proof of that. But that's not even that important. The important part is, when he is in his neighborhood and he calls 911, and he follows a suspicious person, and he exits his vehicle... he is exercising what we all know to be patrol duties.

When a doctor is off-duty, that doesn't excuse him from malpractice should he mess up an emergency he sees on the street. When a cop is off-duty, that doesn't give him the right to act sloppy if he sees something suspicious. In fact, these guys have a greater responsibility to exercise a degree of care because they are trained to know the procedures.

The HOA and the police KNEW Zimmerman was assigned Neighborhood Watch duties. Either they trained him and Zimmerman ignored those procedures. Or they didn't train him. Either way, one of those two is in big trouble.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:24 PM   #3022
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Zimmerman wasn't assigned the captain position. It wasn't even a real neighborhood watch program.

He was just a guy that took it on his own. Many of the neighbors may have supported his actions, but I don't think there is anything that would suggest anyone other than Martin could be liable.
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The HOA and the police recognized him as Neighborhood Watch. Sure seems to me that one of those groups or both should have had a duty to make sure that before they made that declaration that he be fully briefed and trained on the necessary procedures. Most importantly, the CLEAR language in the Neighborhood Watch manual that states that you are not to be armed and you are to be "eyes and ears" and avoid physical confrontation. If Zimmerman was clearly briefed on these things, then he had a greater duty to follow procedure, in which case both carrying a gun and getting out of his car are COMPLETE no-no's. If Zimmerman wasn't briefed on those things, then somebody is going to be held responsible for that massive oversight where they allowed a strange man to patrol the street.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:29 PM   #3023
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The quick red fox jumps over the lazy brown dog. If you change that to “the quick red fox jumps over the known sexual predator” the story takes on an entirely different meaning.
My point being that it's absolutely laughable that anybody thinks assigning a man to significant patrol duties without a background check is just plain dumb. Not training him on the procedures is just plain dumb.

You don't want a sexual predator patrolling the streets because how could you possibly give that man license to stalk young children? On the same token, why in the world would the police and HOA think it was okay to put a man with a known track record of aggressive behaviors and a quick temper to be the guy who watches over their neighborhood?
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:51 PM   #3024
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You are one of them. You have a serious problem with people whose political ideas don't match up with yours. The only reason your hatred isn't as important as some others' is because nobody follows or listens to you.
You damn right I'm salty but not hateful for the reasons you think. I hate the enemies within this country that want to destroy the country as we know it, but somehow your side seems to think it is all a big con and they 'think' they can reinvent the American wheel of Freedom and Liberty? Seriously?

I have a serious problem with political radicals/party who refuse to debate ideas and continually shut down free speech 'only' when it comes from conservatives and does not fit into their progressive/marxist agenda.

You are too young and naive to see how your party 'really' works or you just play dumb. But I doubt it. I really believe that most of the democrat base really don't understand their progressive label they tout themselves to be yet in reality the term 'progressive' is nothing more than a dressed up term for 'Marxism'.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:55 PM   #3025
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:18 PM   #3026
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You damn right I'm salty but not hateful for the reasons you think. I hate the enemies within this country that want to destroy the country as we know it, but somehow your side seems to think it is all a big con and they 'think' they can reinvent the American wheel of Freedom and Liberty? Seriously?

I have a serious problem with political radicals/party who refuse to debate ideas and continually shut down free speech 'only' when it comes from conservatives and does not fit into their progressive/marxist agenda.

You are too young and naive to see how your party 'really' works or you just play dumb. But I doubt it. I really believe that most of the democrat base really don't understand their progressive label they tout themselves to be yet in reality the term 'progressive' is nothing more than a dressed up term for 'Marxism'.
Yeah, you're an extremist who refuses to compromise on almost any topic, and you paint everyone on the left as a Marxist. I'm a Marxist to you. Every Democrat in your opinion is a Marxist who wants to ruin this country. And in your opinion, there are a lot of Republicans who are close enough to liberal that they too are considered Marxists who want to ruin this country.

You're basically an extremist, hate-filled, unreasonable fool, at least in your posts on this forum. Perhaps you're different in real-life.
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:33 PM   #3028
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never passing up an oppertunity to take a shot at black people.
No, I never pass up a shot at exposing the double standard treatment of whites especially when they are conservative that is perpetuated and used by our mainstream marxist media/attorney general Eric Holder/Fed Govt./Jesse/Al and all those "white hating black folks" like McMillan.

Let's try this again with this same comment that I posted to you in a Lounge thread:

I'm the furthest thing from a racist but I will not cower or walk on eggshells around minorities just because the progressive media and our progressive culture attempts to redefine what is so-called right and so-called wrong and the double standards they impose on whites in our society when it comes to what racism really is and is not.

And btw when did I defend hockey broadcasters?
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:55 PM   #3029
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No, I never pass up a shot at exposing the double standard treatment of whites especially when they are conservative that is perpetuated and used by our mainstream marxist media/attorney general Eric Holder/Fed Govt./Jesse/Al and all those "white hating black folks" like McMillan.

Let's try this again with this same comment that I posted to you in a Lounge thread:

I'm the furthest thing from a racist but I will not cower or walk on eggshells around minorities just because the progressive media and our progressive culture attempts to redefine what is so-called right and so-called wrong and the double standards they impose on whites in our society when it comes to what racism really is and is not.

And btw when did I defend hockey broadcasters?

Spoken like a true idiot. You take shots at black people when there is no reason too...when there is no reason to "defend the honor of the white man." You're a racist. IF it quakes like a duck, walks like a duck...its a ****ing duck. You were born a century too early. You're ideology is more suited for a society which excludes the voices of minorities , woman, gays, and any thing else in which you feel poses a threat to the "white man."
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You damn right I'm salty but not hateful for the reasons you think. I hate the enemies within this country that want to destroy the country as we know it, but somehow your side seems to think it is all a big con and they 'think' they can reinvent the American wheel of Freedom and Liberty? Seriously?
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OMG Jenson is lit ( on fire)!! He's pulling the "nobody" listens to you logical fallacy on you too. Yet Lit, was listening to you. I listen to you. Not only that but Lit's positions would destroy this country...and they are.
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