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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-20-2012, 01:30 PM   #3091
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:36 PM   #3092
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The plot thickens..........
...and YET, the reporter still slips in that Zimmerman had "profiled" Trayvon as if that's a fact too. To keep the racial aspect going.
The press just slips in such things to shape public opinion.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:16 PM   #3093
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exactly! if a black guy had killed a white guy nobody would give a shit.
No, he would get thrown in jail (rightfully so) for life. Open and shut case.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:21 PM   #3094
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:37 PM   #3095
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:40 PM   #3096
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DERSHOWITZ BLASTS ZIMMERMAN PROSECUTION: 'NOT ONLY IMMORAL, BUT STUPID'

With ABC News’ release of the George Zimmerman photo showing blood flowing freely from his head, the question becomes whether Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case, had access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
The arrest affidavit did not mention the photograph, or the bleeding, gashes, and bruises on Zimmermans’ head. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:43 PM   #3097
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Not guilty will make lib heads spin a 360. The more you read about Trayvon the better it looks for George.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:47 PM   #3098
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This is a prime example of emotion vs. facts.


People that let their emotions rule them usually come out looking irrational more often then not.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:24 PM   #3099
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I have to admit I was one who knee-jerked to thinking he was guilty. With the photos now showing the injuries to his head, it is believable that it was self defense.

It doesn't excuse him from being a moron when he could have prevented the situation from ever happening by not being a moron, but that isn't the legal standard.

There should be something he could be convicted of for monstrous stupidity of this variety... But I don't know what that would be.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:33 PM   #3100
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It doesn't excuse him from being a moron when he could have prevented the situation from ever happening by not being a moron, but that isn't the legal standard.
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I think Gz could have handled it better but people have a right to know what is going on in their neighborhood as long as they stay within the law... Gz was within the law by observing and reporting what he saw to the police

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I have to admit I was one who knee-jerked to thinking he was guilty. With the photos now showing the injuries to his head, it is believable that it was self defense.

It doesn't excuse him from being a moron when he could have prevented the situation from ever happening by not being a moron, but that isn't the legal standard.

There should be something he could be convicted of for monstrous stupidity of this variety... But I don't know what that would be.
Who was the moron?
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Who was the moron?
Zimmerman. The dumbass should have let the police do their job.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:06 PM   #3104
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Zimmerman. The dumbass should have let the police do their job.
I've thought about this alot since it happened. I live in a pretty quiet neighborhood. Had I seen someone I don't know at all whom I thought was suspicious, I'd call the cops. But I can see myself following the guy. I don't have a conceal carry permit, so I wouldn't have a gun on me. But say the guy I'm following, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, decides he doesn't like it and turns around and proceeds to kick my ass. It's my right to defend myself.

Trayvon was likely a lively young punkass who fancied calling himself a ****a or whatever on his twitter account...he's a young man looking for respect. This asshole following him needs to learn some respect. He decided to teach Zimmerman a lesson. He gets shot because he's young and dumb. End of tragic ****in' story.

Zimmerman is probably ( I don't know without seeing ALL the evidence) NOT guilty of 2nd degree murder. But, his life is over now as well. He'll have to go into protective custody just to stay alive.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:07 PM   #3105
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Who was the moron?
They were both morons.

But Zimmerman is alive, so obviously he is slightly less of a moron than Trayvon.

If you kill someone (or even **** someone up badly), you are going to have to defend yourself criminally, civilly and possibly now on the internet and in the media.

So you better be damn sure it is worth it , or damn sure you think you need to before you do it.

Zimmerman has had to quit his job,school, leave his home, leave his family, stay in hiding, go to jail......get bailed out......go through a criminal trial...and he will assuredly go through a civil trial with an even bigger chance of losing (preponderance versus reasonable doubt).

Ask Zimmerman if he thinks he acted like a moron, I bet if he was honest he would say yes.

Ask Trayvon if he acted like a moron, I bet if he were alive and honest he would say yes.

Two morons meeting up this way is almost like two speeding cars, a horrible tragic accident...where both are idiots but it isn't a murder.
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