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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 05-18-2012, 08:01 AM   #3346
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Have you listened to the 911 call? IMO, he didn't sound pissed to me, he sounded like slow poke rodriguez off the speedy gonzalez cartoon.
****ing punks, they always get away.

Yup. That's not a guy with a grudge.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:04 AM   #3347
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****ing punks, they always get away.

Yup. That's not a guy with a grudge.
Sounds like he doesn't like the break-ins that were happening there. Who wouldn't have a grudge about that? Sounds like a natural reaction.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:04 AM   #3348
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Travon's girlfriend undermines your theory. She says that the man who was following Travon asked him what he was doing around there. That doesn't sound over-aggressive to me.
Good point. I don't know if I believe her story either. None of the stories seem to hang together. But I do think if he had confidence he did nothing wrong, but we would hear a consistent story from him.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #3349
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Sounds like he doesn't like the break-ins that were happening there. Who wouldn't have a grudge about that? Sounds like a natural reaction.
The point isn't whether being angry is justified. The question is if it made him act rashly.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:11 AM   #3350
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Other thing. There are some interesting reports coming out about Zimmerman being a total douche at work. Including racist comments. Same with his myspace page. Like I said, it's not going to find him guilty, but I bet we are going to really dislike him when this is all said and done. There seems to be a lot of meat to assassinate his character.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:30 AM   #3351
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Other thing. There are some interesting reports coming out about Zimmerman being a total douche at work. Including racist comments. Same with his myspace page. Like I said, it's not going to find him guilty, but I bet we are going to really dislike him when this is all said and done. There seems to be a lot of meat to assassinate his character.
Myspace page? That alone is grounds for a guilty verdict.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:33 AM   #3352
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Myspace page? That alone is grounds for a guilty verdict.
You need to read more carefully. I didn't say it was.

But comments he made there, in the workplace, anywhere.... I think the prosecution will find a lot.. And making racially charged comments isn't going to help him.

And yes, I have seen hundreds of instances where people make stupid comments on Facebook and it comes back to bite them. So don't underestimate that. Especially since many believe trayvon was racially profiled.

And by the way, I interesting that the same people who used Trayvon's social media pages to paint him as a thug aren't doing the same to paint Zimmerman as a potential bigot.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:01 AM   #3353
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You need to read more carefully. I didn't say it was.

But comments he made there, in the workplace, anywhere.... I think the prosecution will find a lot.. And making racially charged comments isn't going to help him.

And yes, I have seen hundreds of instances where people make stupid comments on Facebook and it comes back to bite them. So don't underestimate that. Especially since many believe trayvon was racially profiled.

And by the way, I interesting that the same people who used Trayvon's social media pages to paint him as a thug aren't doing the same to paint Zimmerman as a potential bigot.
2 things. First I was joking about the myspace thing. It's a dogshit site populated by God knows what anymore. Bad joke, poor communication, FAIL at funny on my part.

Second. Yes. The internet can doom.

What I am genuinely curious about is what is it about this case that makes you so outraged over it? Honest question. Why are you mad?
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:38 AM   #3354
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It makes me laugh that the media continues running that photo of Martin when he was 11.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:43 PM   #3355
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2 things. First I was joking about the myspace thing. It's a dogshit site populated by God knows what anymore. Bad joke, poor communication, FAIL at funny on my part.

Second. Yes. The internet can doom.

What I am genuinely curious about is what is it about this case that makes you so outraged over it? Honest question. Why are you mad?
Outrageous the way the trayvon supporters and media have twisted the facts.

Equally outrageous that Zimmerman is getting so much support from trayvon critics who jump at Zimmerman injury photos and trayvon thc tests, but completely ignore the massive amounts of stories that pretty clearly show Zimmerman is a raging dbag.

On this board here's a lot more of the latter than the former.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #3356
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You're currently under the influence of pot, aren't you?
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:07 PM   #3357
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Outrageous the way the trayvon supporters and media have twisted the facts.

Equally outrageous that Zimmerman is getting so much support from trayvon critics who jump at Zimmerman injury photos and trayvon thc tests, but completely ignore the massive amounts of stories that pretty clearly show Zimmerman is a raging dbag.

On this board here's a lot more of the latter than the former.
Zimmerman is very much a raging douchebag, but that's not what is on trial here today. Is it did he or did he not act in self defense?
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #3358
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The point isn't whether being angry is justified. The question is if it made him act rashly.
Acting rashly is not necessarily a crime.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:17 PM   #3360
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From a jury standpoint, yes. He'll be found not guilty.

But if we're forming opinions, let's be real here. Zimmerman's track record and given how pissed he was on the 911 call....

What still gets me is that his story never seems to hang together.
I'm going to disagree with you on BOTH points.

Zimmerman seemed pretty calm on the audio, and even after the shooting according to the statements.

As far as the 'story' goes, he claimed to act in self defense. That story has done NOTHING but come more and more together. Zimmerman has been fairly consistent with his story IMO. The media, the lawyers for the prosecution, sharpton, etc.....THOSE people are the ones whose story is falling apart.
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