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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-10-2013, 04:55 PM   #3811
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While i agree that zimmerman was no hero, and that he WAS told to stand down... at the end of the wash cycle, i'm going to come down on the side of the guy who was trying to keep a burglar from ****ing his neighborhood yet again.

I wont tolerate a damned thief.
I was many things that were less than respectable growing up where I did. However I never ran with thieves. I have no use for thieves and agree with your disdain. It still points back to a wanna be badass who pushed it and got his ass handed to him by a kid. He in my view wanted this confrontation and made sure it happened. All said and done a bad kid got killed and a wanna be asshole killed him IMO~
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:01 PM   #3812
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The real question is did he need to. George Zimmerman ain't no hero and that is something I am sure of~
Not many people ARE heroes, and that isn't what the issue is.

The prosecution has to prove murder.

Personally, IMO they ****ed up the moment they:

1) cancelled the grand jury

2) decided to go with murder charges


Why didn't they just go for negligent homicide or what not and then tack on some firearms charges....?

They still may have lost, but how in the **** are they seriously going to prove MURDER?

They caved to al sharpton etc....Someone should be fired.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:04 PM   #3813
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They caved to al sharpton etc....Someone should be fired.
This. And the MSM.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:04 PM   #3814
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It still points back to a wanna be badass who pushed it and got his ass handed to him by a kid. He in my view wanted this confrontation and made sure it happened. All said and done a bad kid got killed and a wanna be asshole killed him IMO~
If you touch another person, (me for example), be prepared to fight for your life.

Unless you can PROVE Zimmerman started the physical fight, your statement is false.....

It is not OK to lay hands on someone, unless you want to escalate to life and death. Period.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:05 PM   #3815
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Not many people ARE heroes, and that isn't what the issue is.

The prosecution has to prove murder.

Personally, IMO they ****ed up the moment they:

1) cancelled the grand jury

2) decided to go with murder charges


Why didn't they just go for negligent homicide or what not and then tack on some firearms charges....?

They still may have lost, but how in the **** are they seriously going to prove MURDER?

They caved to al sharpton etc....Someone should be fired.
I am not saying he should be convicted. I am just saying there are several groupies who think this clown is a hero~
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:14 PM   #3816
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:22 PM   #3817
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:23 PM   #3818
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:36 PM   #3819
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:49 PM   #3820
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If you touch another person, (me for example), be prepared to fight for your life.

Unless you can PROVE Zimmerman started the physical fight, your statement is false.....

It is not OK to lay hands on someone, unless you want to escalate to life and death. Period.

Moral of the story...

Your odds of getting shot go way down when you choose to keep your hands to yourself...
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:02 PM   #3821
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Everyone desires a cause I guess
This is a soviet style political lynching.

It doesn't matter what you think of Zimmerman or what he is, the fact is no citizen should be railroaded like this.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:19 PM   #3822
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This is a soviet style political lynching.

It doesn't matter what you think of Zimmerman or what he is, the fact is no citizen should be railroaded like this.
I have huge concerns regarding the direction this government is taking. The groupies from the right and left cheer these pig****ers on. As far as Zimmerman and his little drama it falls way short of the things that worry me~
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:51 PM   #3823
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Good grief! Don't ever get on a jury.
Why? I've said a gazillion times I believe he is innocent by law. But a douche bag in practice.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:01 PM   #3824
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Zimmerman took the situation to the cliff, but Martin pushed it over by circling back to attack him, its been pretty clear to me for a while... the pics showing how beat up zimmerman was prove it.

America needs to stop grinding this axe as far as i'm concerned... it didnt have to happen the way it did... but the kid was becoming a gutsy little burglar and would've found deadly trouble sooner or later, people need to stop excusing what he was doing.

Trayvon was a thief who didnt take kindly to some fat little white man following him around about it, and he forced a fateful decison... case closed.
Give me a break. They were both punks.

First of all, there is nothing to suggest trayvon did anything suspicious that night. Zero. I have never excused trayvon s reaction. But here's what I know. When you are carrying a gun you have extra responsibility not to find reasons to use it. It is pretty clear Zimmerman was actively following trayvon. So if we are playing the game of blaming a thug for picking a fight against the wrong guy, that suit works both ways.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:09 PM   #3825
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Give me a break. They were both punks.

First of all, there is nothing to suggest trayvon did anything suspicious that night. Zero. I have never excused trayvon s reaction. But here's what I know. When you are carrying a gun you have extra responsibility not to find reasons to use it. It is pretty clear Zimmerman was actively following trayvon. So if we are playing the game of blaming a thug for picking a fight against the wrong guy, that suit works both ways.
He only used it when he was assaulted... He didn't run screaming with his gun in his hand yelling Citizens Arrest like Gomer did
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