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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-18-2013, 09:28 AM   #3961
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We will see how the case plays out. Right now the question I continue to ask is, why do his statements seem to be all over the place? If he was innocent why stretch the truth?
Because there was a witch hunt in progress and he wasn't confident that the plain vanilla truth would win out?
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:09 AM   #3962
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Because there was a witch hunt in progress and he wasn't confident that the plain vanilla truth would win out?
How do you figure this is a witch hunt? An innocent black youth was shot, and the shooter wasn't even arrested. Didn't you read the thread title? It's all right there.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:12 AM   #3963
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How do you figure this is a witch hunt? An innocent black youth was shot, and the shooter wasn't even arrested. Didn't you read the thread title? It's all right there.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:12 AM   #3964
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How do you figure this is a witch hunt? An innocent black youth was shot, and the shooter wasn't even arrested. Didn't you read the thread title? It's all right there.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #3966
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Because there was a witch hunt in progress and he wasn't confident that the plain vanilla truth would win out?
It was a police statement. You're really going to argue that this excuses him for being anything but honest?
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:36 PM   #3967
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It was a police statement. You're really going to argue that this excuses him for being anything but honest?
Is that what you read into my simple statement? I don't even know what specific untruth you're talking about so I'm certainly not offering a specific defense of whatever it is that he said. But I am offering a possible motivation that could lead a normal person to embellish or fudge the facts out of fear whether it's morally right in the considered opinion of those safely ensconced in the ivory towers or not.

Personally, I think the LAPD fudged the evidence in the OJ trial. Or at the very least, lied about their motivation for jumping the fence without a warrant. I think it's because the cops were probably certain that he was guilty and they didn't want to take a chance on a big money celebrity getting away with murder. It's not something that I excuse, and certainly not for a cop, but it's pretty common human behavior for people to skate around the edges of propriety when they think they're doing it to insure a just result.
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:18 PM   #3968
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Brunswick, Georgia (CNN) -- Two teenagers were arrested Friday in the shooting death of a 13-month-old boy who was in his stroller, according to police in this coastal city.

The suspects are a 17-year-old boy and a 14-year-old boy, Police Chief Tobe Green told reporters Friday. He said they are being held on suspicion of first-degree murder.

Green identified the older suspect as De'Marquis Elkins, saying he will be treated as an adult in criminal proceedings. The 14-year-old was not identified because of his age.

"We are turning every stone to get a motive," said Green. A weapon, believed to be a handgun, has not been found, but police expressed confidence they would find it.

Police said they acted on a suspect description given by the baby's mother, Sherry West, who said she was with her son when the incident occurred.

Officers checked school attendance records to determine who was not in classes Thursday, police spokesman Todd Rhodes said. No other suspects are being sought, he said.


Mom: My son was 'innocent and helpless' Police offered a $10,000 reward for information and have received more than 30 leads. They were still following them Friday afternoon.

West earlier told reporters that the incident occurred at 9 a.m. Thursday as she was walking home from the post office, pushing her son Antonio in a stroller.

"A boy approached me and told me he wanted my money, and I told him I didn't have any money. And he said, 'Give me your money or I'm going to kill you and I'm going to shoot your baby and kill your baby,' and I said, "I don't have any money and don't kill my baby."

The boy tried to grab her purse and opened fire when she said tried to tell him she had no money, West said, grazing her head. She said the boy then shot her in the leg.

West continued, "And then, all of a sudden, he walked over and he shot my baby in the face."

West said she tried to perform CPR on her son and that the police took over when they arrived, but to no avail. "We lost him," she said.

During the incident, the smaller of the two boys was hiding behind the larger one, she said. "I don't know whether it was his brother or a friend."

West had said she hopes the boys will receive the maximum sentence possible. "If they can use a gun like an adult, then they can be charged like an adult," she said. "I want to see lethal injection or at least life in prison. This child did nothing to him. He was innocent and helpless."

Though no one has reported seeing the shooting, several people called 911 after hearing it, Rhodes said.

The city's website describes Brunswick, with a population of about 15,000, as "one of the most unique, historic and visually stunning places in the world." It boasts 19th century Victorian-style homes, century-old oaks and magnolia tree-lined streets.



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Old 03-22-2013, 11:51 PM   #3969
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Brunswick, Georgia (CNN) -- Two teenagers were arrested Friday in the shooting death of a 13-month-old boy who was in his stroller, according to police in this coastal city.

The suspects are a 17-year-old boy and a 14-year-old boy, Police Chief Tobe Green told reporters Friday. He said they are being held on suspicion of first-degree murder.

Green identified the older suspect as De'Marquis Elkins, saying he will be treated as an adult in criminal proceedings. The 14-year-old was not identified because of his age.

"We are turning every stone to get a motive," said Green. A weapon, believed to be a handgun, has not been found, but police expressed confidence they would find it.

Police said they acted on a suspect description given by the baby's mother, Sherry West, who said she was with her son when the incident occurred.

Officers checked school attendance records to determine who was not in classes Thursday, police spokesman Todd Rhodes said. No other suspects are being sought, he said.


Mom: My son was 'innocent and helpless' Police offered a $10,000 reward for information and have received more than 30 leads. They were still following them Friday afternoon.

West earlier told reporters that the incident occurred at 9 a.m. Thursday as she was walking home from the post office, pushing her son Antonio in a stroller.

"A boy approached me and told me he wanted my money, and I told him I didn't have any money. And he said, 'Give me your money or I'm going to kill you and I'm going to shoot your baby and kill your baby,' and I said, "I don't have any money and don't kill my baby."

The boy tried to grab her purse and opened fire when she said tried to tell him she had no money, West said, grazing her head. She said the boy then shot her in the leg.

West continued, "And then, all of a sudden, he walked over and he shot my baby in the face."

West said she tried to perform CPR on her son and that the police took over when they arrived, but to no avail. "We lost him," she said.

During the incident, the smaller of the two boys was hiding behind the larger one, she said. "I don't know whether it was his brother or a friend."

West had said she hopes the boys will receive the maximum sentence possible. "If they can use a gun like an adult, then they can be charged like an adult," she said. "I want to see lethal injection or at least life in prison. This child did nothing to him. He was innocent and helpless."

Though no one has reported seeing the shooting, several people called 911 after hearing it, Rhodes said.

The city's website describes Brunswick, with a population of about 15,000, as "one of the most unique, historic and visually stunning places in the world." It boasts 19th century Victorian-style homes, century-old oaks and magnolia tree-lined streets.



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What does this have to do with the case.. Other than you trying to post examples of young black males being thugs.. Thus making your racist views undeniable
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:33 AM   #3970
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Is that what you read into my simple statement? I don't even know what specific untruth you're talking about so I'm certainly not offering a specific defense of whatever it is that he said. But I am offering a possible motivation that could lead a normal person to embellish or fudge the facts out of fear whether it's morally right in the considered opinion of those safely ensconced in the ivory towers or not.

Personally, I think the LAPD fudged the evidence in the OJ trial. Or at the very least, lied about their motivation for jumping the fence without a warrant. I think it's because the cops were probably certain that he was guilty and they didn't want to take a chance on a big money celebrity getting away with murder. It's not something that I excuse, and certainly not for a cop, but it's pretty common human behavior for people to skate around the edges of propriety when they think they're doing it to insure a just result.
He gave his police statement after he shot him. I doubt he was predicting this would be a major national story. His other statements were given after what appeared to be carefully choreographed recap of events created by his lawyers.

His original statement has some holes in it. And he lied to the judge about his income to purposefully drive down his bail. What was his motivation to lie about that other than to sleazily get out of jail quicker? Sorry, but while I don't think he's guilty of murder, he is a sleazy liar and that isn't just a reaction to the negative media attention.
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What does this have to do with the case.. Other than you trying to post examples of young black males being thugs.. Thus making your racist views undeniable
How do you know they're black?
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What does this have to do with the case.. Other than you trying to post examples of young black males being thugs.. Thus making your racist views undeniable
Do you mean besides the lack of media coverage and feigned outage by those seeking 'racial harmony'? If anything good comes out of bum **** barry being elected president it will be the 'boy who cried wolf' effect on the racism card. Better sell that stock because even stupid people are beginning to see thu it.
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His original statement has some holes in it.
Like what? I honestly don't know the statements well enough to poke holes in them. Pretend you are the prosecutor, point out the holes , 1 by 1.
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What does this have to do with the case.. Other than you trying to post examples of young black males being thugs.. Thus making your racist views undeniable
I have slammed Zimmerman pretty hard in this thread. That said playing the race card in this situation is rather humorous. The OP lists him as white and there was quite a display of white bashing until the liberal shitbags found out he was Hispanic. Hell Sharpton wept upon hearing the news~
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