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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 05-14-2013, 01:19 PM   #4006
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The OP still cracks me up especially since the poster is always telling everyone how dumb they are.
I agree. It never loses it's entertainment value.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:50 PM   #4007
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So you're saying that black gangs shouldn't shoot up white neighborhoods in retaliation?
Well it did seem like the next logical step to take care of all those hispanic racist. He was also probably high when he posted it so I'll give him a pass, no pun intended.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #4008
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I thought he was a white hispanic?
But...but...the original post says he is white. So you are telling me this is not the case? You are saying he is sort of white and he is racist? Does this mean all people that are sort of white are racist? We spend billions trying to find cures for things. We should find a way to remove the white from these people so they will quit being racist~
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:36 PM   #4009
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But...but...the original post says he is white. So you are telling me this is not the case? You are saying he is sort of white and he is racist? Does this mean all people that are sort of white are racist? We spend billions trying to find cures for things. We should find a way to remove the white from these people so they will quit being racist~
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:42 PM   #4010
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The trial has not started yet.

Every trial has motions to limit evidence.

Why do you think he is not getting a fair trial?
The jury pool has been extremely tainted from day 1 with pictures, edited audio, and inflammatory evidence released by the media, prosecution side or Cump.

The grand jury was cancelled and the DA decided to prosecute this case regardless.

Appeal city, IMO.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:11 AM   #4011
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:51 PM   #4012
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CNN) -- Items taken from Trayvon Martin's cell phone -- including a text-message discussion of drug use and pictures of a gun and marijuana plants -- are among new details released Thursday by attorneys for the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of killing him without provocation 14 months ago.

The evidence, George Zimmerman's attorneys say, paints a different picture of the 17-year-old than the one portrayed by his family and supporters. Lead defense attorney Mark O'Mara says he will try to use the evidence if prosecutors attempt to attack Zimmerman's character during his trial on second-degree murder charges, set to begin next month.

Also Thursday, O'Mara filed motions in court. One asks for sanctions against the state for withholding evidence and for saying it didn't have more evidence when asked. The second requests that his client's trial be delayed.

Much of the new evidence disclosed Thursday in filings by Zimmerman's attorneys comes from Martin's cell phone, including photos showing a semiautomatic pistol and ammunition and small marijuana plants growing in pots.
Photos: Trayvon Martin evidence Photos: Trayvon Martin evidence

In other pictures, Martin is pictured making obscene gestures in an apparent self-portrait, as well pictures showing him with friends and in other settings.

The text messages include a conversation from November 2011 in which he appears to say his mother has kicked him out of the house after "da police caught me outta skool."

"So you just turning into a lil hoodlum," the person with whom he is texting says.

"Naw, I'm a gangsta," the text message read.

In other messages, text message exchanges appear to be discussing guns.

"U wanna share a .380 w/ (blacked out)," one text message sent from Martin's phone reads.

The text messaging logs are also peppered with references to marijuana use.

"I got weed nd I get money Friday," a message sent from his phone reads.

"I hid m weed," another text sent from Martin's phone reads. "its wrapped."

The attorney for Martin's family, Benjamin Crump, says the evidence is "irrelevant" and predicted it would never be used at Zimmerman's trial.

"Is the defense trying to prove Trayvon deserved to be killed by George Zimmerman because (of) the way he looked?" Crump said in a statement released Thursday.

"If so, this stereotypical and closed-minded thinking is the same mindset that caused George Zimmerman to get out of his car and pursue Trayvon, an unarmed kid who he didn't know. The pretrial release of these irrelevant red herrings is a desperate and pathetic attempt by the defense to pollute and sway the jury pool."

Instead, he said, jurors will focus on Zimmerman's arrest for battery on a police officer, a domestic violence injunction and other issues he said demonstrate a "propensity for violence."

Zimmerman's defense also released Thursday a handwritten note that was allegedly written by someone who was on the phone with Martin when the confrontation with Zimmerman took place.

The note, dated March 19, 2012, is not addressed to anyone in particular and it's not clear why the person wrote it.

It reads: "He started walking then noticed someone was following him. Then he decided to find a shortcut cause the man wouldn't follow him. Then he said the man didn't follow him again. Then he looked back and saw the man again. The man started getting closer. Then Trevon turned around and said why are you following me!!

"Then I heard him fall, then the phone hung up. I called back and (not legible) no response. In my mind I thought it was just a fight. Then I found out this tragic story."

Zimmerman recently waived his right to a pretrial hearing under Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force when threatened regardless of where they are.

His attorneys will claim self-defense at trial.

A representative of the special prosecutor handling the case did not immediately return an e-mail message seeking comment on the evidence.

Prosecutors renewed their motion for a gag order in the case Thursday because, they say, they're concerned about finding an impartial jury given the "inordinate amount of media coverage."

Two previous gag order requests by the prosecution have been denied.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:04 PM   #4013
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So Obama was dead on when he said if he had a son he would be just like Trayon.
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:07 PM   #4014
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I like how the prosecution tries to disallow Trayvon's history of crime and violence, but they attack Zimmerman based on his past.
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:11 PM   #4015
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So Obama was dead on when he said if he had a son he would be just like Trayon.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:44 AM   #4016
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I like how the prosecution tries to disallow Trayvon's history of crime and violence, but they attack Zimmerman based on his past.
Their job is to build a case against Zimmerman. What prosecutor wouldn't do that? The defense is doing the same thing, when they argued against admitting Zimmerman's old myspace pages.

This new evidence on phone data shouldn't shock anyone paying attention. Trayvon wasn't a model kid. Zimmerman wasn't just a nice boy "doing his job." Both guys had similarly stupid aggressive tendencies, both got caught in a fight they couldn't win, and both paid the price.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:03 AM   #4017
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Their job is to build a case against Zimmerman. What prosecutor wouldn't do that? The defense is doing the same thing, when they argued against admitting Zimmerman's old myspace pages.

This new evidence on phone data shouldn't shock anyone paying attention. Trayvon wasn't a model kid. Zimmerman wasn't just a nice boy "doing his job." Both guys had similarly stupid aggressive tendencies, both got caught in a fight they couldn't win, and both paid the price.
It doesn't shock anyone who has been paying attention...but the jury is supposed to be comprised of people who haven't been paying attention. They may be shocked to learn that this kid was in that neighborhood because he had been kicked out of school for having drugs and had also been breaking into lockers to steal jewelry.

This was a kid who was prone to making terrible decisions. He came across another guy who was prone to making bad decisions. Shit happened.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:33 AM   #4018
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George Zimmerman's Lawyer Wants Jurors To See Photos Of Handgun, Pot Plants Found On Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone

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There might be some argument about admitting that evidence pre-trial and the defense may well use it if allowed.

But I am not sure how those photos would be very helpful for Zimmerman considering that Martin was unarmed that night. Is Zimmerman's story that Martin showed the photo of the gun on his cellphone and Zimmerman mistook it for a real gun that Martin was threatening to use that night?

Likewise, I doubt that Zimmerman was deputized by the DEA to shoot people who had photos of marijuana plants.

I suppose it is all going to come down to whether or not Zimmerman tells a believable story that makes a case for self-defense.

I was not there, but my guess is that Zimmerman was as or more responsible for the physical confrontation happening in the first place, that Martin was getting the best of the hand to hand combat.

That Zimmerman was not fearful of death or serious injury but he was tired of getting his azz kicked and he shot Martin out of revenge and not out of fear.

Again, I was not there, but I just don't think that Martin was intending to beat Zimmerman to death or trying to hurt him that badly. I doubt that Zimmerman thought he was about to die, he was frustrated that he followed some kid to confront him and end up up getting a playground ass-kicking, and since he had a gun he used it out of revenge and not fear.
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