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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 06-27-2013, 01:07 PM   #4516
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I think if Zimmerman was a pussy he'd have just cowered in his house while criminals (aka your heroes) continued rob his neighborhood blind. It's not like he was out patrolling his neighborhood with a gun for the hell of it. I'm guessing you wouldn't be out taking a stand, would you, brave one?

I think the world is a better place because there's one less wanna-be punk-ass thug in it. Sadly, ten more will rise up out of the muck to take his place.

And I think that I'm on the opposite side of an issue from your bitch ass. Which, as always, makes me feel good about myself.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:09 PM   #4517
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Spoken like a true crazy ass cracker.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:30 PM   #4518
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I am pretty sure about four things.

1. Zimmerman would not have followed Martin if Zimmerman did not have a loaded gun with a round in the chamber.

2. No matter what really happened, if the exact same thing happened, except for Trayvon Martin being shot and surviving; Zimmerman would be convicted of aggravated assault by guilty plea or by verdict and few people would have ever heard about this case.

3. Zimmerman looks like a pussy.

4. If you side up with Zimmerman, you are probably a pussy too.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:39 PM   #4519
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:42 PM   #4520
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Robbing the neighborhood blind?

What are the crime stats that you are referring to?

How many burglaries happened on rainy Sunday nights?
Or you could do something crazy like, oh I don’t know, read the freakin topic since the rising crime rate in that neighborhood has already been discussed a few dozen times in it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:47 PM   #4521
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I think the world is a better place because there's one less wanna-be punk-ass thug in it. Sadly, ten more will rise up out of the muck to take his place.
Regardless of whether the thug did anything wrong?
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:57 PM   #4522
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Which of the four points do you disagree with?

The pussy had already called the police with very little facts indicating criminal activity afoot.

Do you really think Zimmerman would have gotten out of his car and followed Martin to confront him after the call-taker told Zimmerman to stay put if he did not have a loaded gun? That pussy would not have followed Martin except for the fact that he had a gun.

Do you really think that Zimmerman would not automatically be convicted for shooting an unarmed kid in a confrontation that he instigated if he had not killed the other primary witness? Martin on the witness stand gets that pussy Zimmerman convicted of aggravated assault no matter what happened.

There is no doubt that Zimmerman is a pussy and that people with pussy tendencies give a pussy like Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt just because he is a pussy, just like them.
Have you even listened to the audio of the call? I don't get how everyone keeps saying they told him to not follow and then he got out of the vehicle. He gets out of the vehicle and tries to follow him when the dispatcher tells him they don't need him to follow he says "OK". He was already out of the vehicle. Not that it would really matter anyway because he doesn't have to obey their suggestion.

I am really getting sick of all the misinformation on this.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #4523
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Have you even listened to the audio of the call? I don't get how everyone keeps saying they told him to not follow and then he got out of the vehicle. He gets out of the vehicle and tries to follow him when the dispatcher tells him they don't need him to follow he says "OK". He was already out of the vehicle. Not that it would really matter anyway because he doesn't have to obey their suggestion.

I am really getting sick of all the misinformation on this.
Over and Over again like an echo chamber... Talks about him assaulting a non uniformed cop in a bar, charges completely dropped but nobody ever says that blah blah blah...

That damn Rachel Jentel was the dumbest witness I have ever seen take the stand in my life...

I just watch the twitterfeed and read the dumb comments and shake my head wondering how people can be so dumb to the law.
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Have you even listened to the audio of the call? I don't get how everyone keeps saying they told him to not follow and then he got out of the vehicle. He gets out of the vehicle and tries to follow him when the dispatcher tells him they don't need him to follow he says "OK". He was already out of the vehicle. Not that it would really matter anyway because he doesn't have to obey their suggestion.

I am really getting sick of all the misinformation on this.
If he really stopped following Martin when he said "OK". He would have been back in his car LONG, LONG before the fight occurred.

Listen to the call:

He gets out of the car at 2:14 and say OK at 2:28. If he goes straight back to his car, he should be back at around 2:42 or 2:50 at the latest. Yet the call keeps going almost 2 full minutes after he says ok, and he still isn't back at his car?

What gives?
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:44 PM   #4525
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He was a pussy with a gun fetish and he would have stayed in the car if he did not have a gun.

Robbing the neighborhood blind?

What are the crime stats that you are referring to?

How many burglaries happened on rainy Sunday nights?

You must not have any kids, if you think it is okay that this kid was killed by this pussy Zimmerman under these circumstances.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:48 PM   #4526
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:56 PM   #4527
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The only way Z is guilty is if he slammed his own head into the concrete over and over and over and created his own lumps and cuts
Under 2nd degree charges sure. Manslaughter, I don't think so. He was told to back off, he didn't, whether he instigated the encounter or not (and that is giving him the benefit of the doubt) he killed someone after being told to let the authorities handle it. Trayvon could have been robbing the neighborhood blind, of course as we know now he wasn't, but that is irrelevant to the "culpable negligence" needed for a manslaughter conviction.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:56 PM   #4528
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Or you could do something crazy like, oh I don’t know, read the freakin topic since the rising crime rate in that neighborhood has already been discussed a few dozen times in it.
Then you ought to be able to state how many incidents without acting like a pussy and proving my point that the people siding up with Zimmer are pussies.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:57 PM   #4529
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Have you even listened to the audio of the call? I don't get how everyone keeps saying they told him to not follow and then he got out of the vehicle. He gets out of the vehicle and tries to follow him when the dispatcher tells him they don't need him to follow he says "OK". He was already out of the vehicle. Not that it would really matter anyway because he doesn't have to obey their suggestion.

I am really getting sick of all the misinformation on this.
The pussy Zimmerman would not have gotten out of his car except for the fact that he was a pussy with a gun.
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Then you ought to be able to state how many incidents without acting like a pussy and proving my point that the people siding up with Zimmer are pussies.
I’ve told you where it is. Quit being such a pussy and find it for yourself.
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