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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:02 PM   #4861
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Damn, if getting in trouble at school is reckless and aggressive behavior, then literally everyone is reckless and aggressive.



They were dropped only because he agreed to take an Alcoholics program. Still doesn't change what he did. And it doesn't change that he also beat his girlfriend.
If you think they are going to drop assault on a cop charges to an alcohol program because they are nice you are nuttier than squirrel shit man. Judges love to make examples of those who assault cops.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:03 PM   #4862
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Damn, if getting in trouble at school is reckless and aggressive behavior, then literally everyone is reckless and aggressive.



They were dropped only because he agreed to take an Alcoholics program. Still doesn't change what he did. And it doesn't change that he also beat his girlfriend.
You can't defend one side, then rag on the other.

Both of these guys have shady backgrounds. Trayvon had more of a past that was likely illegal, whereas Z had more of an anger issue.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #4863
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Damn, if getting in trouble at school is reckless and aggressive behavior, then literally everyone is reckless and aggressive.



They were dropped only because he agreed to take an Alcoholics program. Still doesn't change what he did. And it doesn't change that he also beat his girlfriend.
When was he convicted of beating his GF anyway?
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Before the investigation was carried out, Trayvon Martin was the focus of the case and several facts about him had emerged as well. It turned out that Martin had been suspended from school for possession of an empty marijuana bag. This particular fact was overplayed in the court hearing, but according to Martin's lawyer, he was just a boy in his experimenting years and none of that showed that he had a troubled or violent personality.
On the other hand, Zimmerman's records show that he does have an aggressive personality.
George Zimmerman has been accused of domestic violence, tussling with a police officer and for over-speeding.
In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program.
In the same year (2005), Zimmerman's ex-fiance, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order, alleging domestic violence. In retaliation, Zimmerman filed for a retraining order against Zuazo and both these claims were resolved with both restraining orders granted.
The next year, in 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. However, that case was dismissed because the officer who charged him failed to show up at the court.
These records show that Zimmerman does not have a very clean past either. However, according to his side of the story, it was Trayvon Martin who attacked him and he killed the kid in self-defense.
According to the details, Zimmerman and Martin got into a fight and Martin was able to punch him down and hit him several times on the side-walk. According to Zimmerman, it was him and not Martin who was crying out for help and at one point, Martin even tried to wrench the gun out of his hands.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #4864
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You can't defend one side, then rag on the other.

Both of these guys have shady backgrounds. Trayvon had more of a past that was likely illegal, whereas Z had more of an anger issue.
Last I checked... domestic violence was illegal. Much more illegal than weed.

And once again, I'm not the one bringing this up. Both times R8er has brought up Martin's past and his "drug abuse".
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:07 PM   #4865
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According to Zimmerman, Martin spoke after he was shot. That would be impossible seeing as both his lungs collapsed due to the bullet.

According to Zimmerman, he spread Martin's arms apart after he shot him. Martin was found with both arms under his body at a significant distance away from where Zimmerman said he held him down at. Not to mention different position.
Instead of talking about the irrelevant pasts of both parties, how about we discuss facts. Like these two facts right here. How are these two possible?
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:07 PM   #4866
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Last I checked... domestic violence was illegal. Much more illegal than weed.

And once again, I'm not the one bringing this up. Both times R8er has brought up Martin's past and his "drug abuse".
Was GZ convicted or charged with Domestic Violence?
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #4867
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Instead of talking about the irrelevant pasts of both parties, how about we discuss facts. Like these two facts right here. How are these two possible?
Dude you have no idea what a man can do with a collapsed lung .. Quit speculating.. They would have shot that shit down on day one if he was lying
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:18 PM   #4868
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #4869
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Good, that means he learned his lesson for driving fast, a major blemish on his past.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #4871
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Instead of talking about the irrelevant pasts of both parties, how about we discuss facts. Like these two facts right here. How are these two possible?
I have caught some flack for not being in the Zimmerman camp. I still have a very strong suspicion he is a wannabe badass with cowboy complex. That said there is a reason he was not charged to begin with. Al Sharpton and the usual shitbags showed up and forced an arrest. The original poster was among the idiots foaming at the mouth ready to get this white guy who killed an innocent black kid. As this case unfolds it is becoming clear this case was only taken to court because of political pressure~
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I have caught some flack for not being in the Zimmerman camp. I still have a very strong suspicion he is a wannabe badass with cowboy complex. That said there is a reason he was not charged to begin with. Al Sharpton and the usual shitbags showed up and forced an arrest. The original poster was among the idiots foaming at the mouth ready to get this white guy who killed an innocent black kid. As this case unfolds it is becoming clear this case was only taken to court because of political pressure~
Pretty well sums up my feelings, except I'm more strongly in the wannabe cowboy camp.
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I think they could have gotten a manslaughter conviction, bu tbased on what I know I'd be hard pressed to go murder 2.
Well, we'll see. I, for one, am not even sure of that either. It's also not necessarily better for Z, because normally that's 15 years but it was a minor so it carries 30 years.
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So CNN, ahowed George Zimmerman’s Social Security number and other personal information live over the air, including address, date of birth, and phone number. You think they could have at least blurred out his ss.

The race hustlers certainly have an axe to grind.
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Damn, if getting in trouble at school is reckless and aggressive behavior, then literally everyone is reckless and aggressive.


Did you carry burglary tools at school too?
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