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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 07-11-2013, 02:31 PM   #5341
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I always that it was the other way around
Well I just read that and passed it on.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:37 PM   #5342
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Well I just read that and passed it on.
Maybe you should insert a step in the process called "thinking."

Have you ever heard of jury giving a verdict of "not guilty", and then the judge saying, "Nope, I disagree--go to jail!"?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:38 PM   #5343
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Something positive...just passing it on:

The jury panel, chosen Thursday, is a "slam dunk" for the defense, said Jose Baez, a Florida defense attorney who was lead defense counsel on the Casey Anthony case. The Florida mother was acquitted in 2011 of killing her young daughter, Caylee.

"I think the defense clearly won the day on this one," Baez said. "Any way you slice and dice it, this is a defense jury."

The trial won't be a typical criminal case in that the women won't be tasked with weighing whether George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin the evening of Feb. 26, 2012, but whether he was justified in killing the teen. For the jurors, their understanding of when it's appropriate to use deadly force will be key. That two of the women reported familiarity with guns -- including one who reported she once had the same kind of permit to carry a concealed weapon that Zimmerman was issued -- is a boon for the defense, Baez said.
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... though their views on guns, crime and community will likely be more relevant in the deliberation room than their gender.
So one had a concealed carry permit and another is familiar with guns. That's hopeful. Thank gawd, this isn't NY, RI or Mass.

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Old 07-11-2013, 02:50 PM   #5344
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Speaking practically though, even if the jury would acquit on the original charge on the basis of self-defense, there's always the chance that they will rationalize a conviction on manslaughter on the theory that they weren't 100% sure of self defense and manslaughter seems like a compromise position. It seems like that's what the prosecution is going for here and that's just another reason to hold them in low esteem.
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The State knew what the witnesses would testify to. They new the murder 2 would never stick. So they go to trial for murder 2 knowing they can then say to the jury, hey, even if you can't convict for murder 2, can you at least convict for Manslaughter?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:53 PM   #5345
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One of Barry's goons will make sure at least one juror's name gets leaked.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:09 PM   #5346
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You pieces of shit will probably double down on your racist views if Zimmerman is convicted. I can see alot of white people going on random shooting sprees. ..if you're going to be racist and say blacks will riot its just as easy to assume white men will go on random shooting sprees
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:11 PM   #5347
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You pieces of shit will probably double down on your racist views if Zimmerman is convicted. I can see alot of white people going on random shooting sprees. ..if you're going to be racist and say blacks will riot its just as easy to assume white men will go on random shooting sprees
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:12 PM   #5348
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You pieces of shit will probably double down on your racist views if Zimmerman is convicted. I can see alot of white people going on random shooting sprees. ..if you're going to be racist and say blacks will riot its just as easy to assume white men will go on random shooting sprees
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:15 PM   #5349
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You pieces of shit will probably double down on your racist views if Zimmerman is convicted. I can see alot of white people going on random shooting sprees. ..if you're going to be racist and say blacks will riot its just as easy to assume white men will go on random shooting sprees
History says they'll riot, you stupid mother****er.

If I say that crude oil is black, does that make me a racist too?
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History says they'll riot, you stupid mother****er.

If I say that crude oil is black, does that make me a racist too?
You're a racist piece of shit lije the majority of dc posters. Riots happened because of decades of police brutality and oppression. You ****in idiots seem to be unable to understand the difference. White people riot over sports all the ****in time and go on random shooting sprees. .Zimmerman gets convicted I'm going to be very afraid of the racist going on random killing sprees....
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History says they'll riot, you stupid mother****er.

If I say that crude oil is black, does that make me a racist too?
I believe it's called Middle Eastern Tea, you insensitive prick.
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You're a racist piece of shit lije the majority of dc posters. Riots happened because of decades of police brutality and oppression. You ****in idiots seem to be unable to understand the difference. White people riot over sports all the ****in time and go on random shooting sprees. .Zimmerman gets convicted I'm going to be very afraid of the racist going on random killing sprees....
I would think if riots were going to happen OJ getting off for killing 2 whities would have triggered that.
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You pieces of shit will probably double down on your racist views if Zimmerman is convicted. I can see alot of white people going on random shooting sprees. ..if you're going to be racist and say blacks will riot its just as easy to assume white men will go on random shooting sprees
Hey pot, meet kettle. The biggest racist I see here is you. You instantly wanted to convict before a shred of evidence was presented. Why? Because you thought the shooter was white and the dead was black.
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DC IS FULL OF racist piece of shitt. The majority of dc posterss are glad to see another black male dead.Riots happened because of decades of police brutality and oppression. You ****in idiots seem to be unable to understand the difference. White people riot over sports all the ****in time and go on random shooting sprees. .Zimmerman gets convicted I'm going to be very afraid of the racist going on random killing sprees...
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