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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:26 AM   #6001
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:27 AM   #6002
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:35 AM   #6004
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:36 AM   #6005
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I pretty much agree with that. The situation is shitty, and neither of them are innocent in the general question of "whose fault was it that someone ended up dead?". But in the end, the laws in that state say that you're allowed to shoot someone if you fear for your life due to their aggression, and there's no real evidence that definitively says that wasn't the case.

I do think I'd be freaked the **** out if I were the type who likes to pick fights in Florida, though. Based on this, I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to pull a gun on any old schmuck who punches someone in the face.

Regardless, it's hard to imagine that there would have been anywhere near this much angst over this case had the cops just arrested the guy in the first place.

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:41 AM   #6006
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I wonder if racial tension will ever go away in this country? Obvious answer is HELL NO. But it'd be nice.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:49 AM   #6007
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Thank you. Vey good post and exactly where I stand.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:49 AM   #6008
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I agree with what that person posted. I am not surprised at all at the verdict and I am thankful this trial is over because I am tired of hearing about it.

With that being said, just like I said about Casey Anthony the best outcome would be if somebody put 2 in the back of his head and be done with it.

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So the narrative has changed overnight to a Hispanic man profiled a black child and it's Whitey's fault
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For the record, this is what I've been saying for a while. And have gotten a lot of shit for it.

This case has gone where it needs to. Zimmerman is rightfully not guilty, but liability cases will soon follow. Zimmerman deserves his share from NBC for the ridiculous doctoring of video, and he also deserves to be scrutinized for the way he conducted himself that night. That should result in financial penaltiesbut he doesn't belong in jail.
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Young punk Trayvon made a poor decision that night and paid the ultimate price for his stupidity is what it came down to.
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People are stupid... this will not end well.

I wonder if racial tension will ever go away in this country? Obvious answer is HELL NO. But it'd be nice.

Out side if chiefsplanet ive kept my opinion to myself regarding this case. Black people are angry because Zimmerman racially profiled a kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman had no reason or authority to stop Trayvon. Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon and decided he was a threat because of his race. What happened after that was Zimmerman ignoring 911 operators who told him not to pursue the kid and he did anyway. What happened next no one knows: all we know is Zimmerman walked away and a child is dead. The anger is because many of us have had to deal with racial profiling in one way oe another our entire lives. The anger and frustration ins because we see ourselves and family members in Trayvon's place; this could have easily have been myself or one of my friends or family memebrs. Then for people to call the kid a thug and say he deserved it only adds to the frustration. How many of you were angles at 17? The fact is the kid was applying for colleges..not to many "thugs" do that.

Race is a defining factor. Our countries history is intertwined with race being an identifying force of social and economic status. Not to long ago people were marching for civil rights. , alot has changed oobviously with the election of Obama, but unfortunately alot hasn't changed either. You cant expect a country who used race for the majority of its existence as a mmeasuring stick of personal freedoms and liberties people are alloted, to change overnight. You add race into this case, the media stoking the fire and people on both sides not wanting ior willing to see the other sides view because it doesn't align with their political talking points and you end up with anger on both sides.What we end up with a polarized society in regards to this particular trial.
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Young punk Trayvon made a poor decision that night and paid the ultimate price for his stupidity is what it came down to.
Yep. Walked through the the wrong neighborhood, with the wrong neighborhood watchman patrolling the streets. Punk.
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I agree with what that person posted. I am not surprised at all at the verdict and I am thankful this trial is over because I am tired of hearing about it.

With that being said, just like I said about Casey Anthony the best outcome would be if somebody put 2 in the back of his head and be done with it.
I can't put GZ in the same category as CA.. CA is guilty in my mind of killing her child and GZ is guilty of bad judgement that possibly put him in a situation to have to kill another person.
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