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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 07-19-2013, 12:04 AM   #6511
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The term "Hispanic" is broadly used to refer to the culture, peoples, or nations with a historical link to Spain. The term is commonly applied to those countries which were once colonized by Spain, particularly the countries of Latin America which were colonized by Spain.

While the two terms are sometimes used interchangeably, Hispanic is a narrower term which mostly refers to persons of Spanish-speaking origin or ancestry, while Latino is more frequently used to refer more generally to anyone of Latin American origin or ancestry, including Brazilians. Hispanic thus includes persons from Spain and Spanish-speaking Latin Americans excluding Brazilians (who speak Portuguese) while Latino excludes persons from Spain but includes both Spanish-speaking and Portuguese-speaking Latin Americans.
I'm pretty sure that I qualify both as Hispanic and Latino. Please though... tell me more about my ancestry and heritage.

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Old 07-19-2013, 06:23 AM   #6512
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I'm pretty sure that I qualify both as Hispanic and Latino. Please though... tell me more about my ancestry and heritage.
Did you miss the first paragraph if the wiki page you just quoted? You are literally using the illiterate US definition. Like I said, Hispanic equals another kind of European.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:08 AM   #6513
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Did you miss the first paragraph if the wiki page you just quoted? You are literally using the illiterate US definition. Like I said, Hispanic equals another kind of European.
IMO, you're using the term too narrowly. The US definition isn't illiterate, particularly to the extent that it refers to a people descended from and culturally linked to Spain like Mexicans.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:12 AM   #6514
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:30 AM   #6515
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IMO, you're using the term too narrowly. The US definition isn't illiterate, particularly to the extent that it refers to a people descended from and culturally linked to Spain like Mexicans.
I am being techincal about it, but I am just pointing out how the goal posts have moved. The US Census actually reports Hispanics as "white".

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:21 AM   #6518
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Is "Chicano" still en vogue?
Chicano in some circles can be considered a slur. However it techically refers to Mexican-Americans.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:37 AM   #6519
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If that car was stopped or blocked off this could be perceived as a carjacking event and probably grounds to shoot this guy...

But the woman had her window down (mistake) trying to talk to a bunch of people who probably hate whitey to begin with..

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:51 AM   #6520
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If that car was stopped or blocked off this could be perceived as a carjacking event and probably grounds to shoot this guy...

But the woman had her window down (mistake) trying to talk to a bunch of people who probably hate whitey to begin with..
Wow, you really are quick to shoot.
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Wow, you really are quick to shoot.
This thread is like Groundhog Day on crystal meth.
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #6522
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yes, a man on the phone with a police dispatcher...a man with a loaded 9 millimeter pistol in his lap tracking a kid walking around was "scared".

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Old 07-19-2013, 12:30 PM   #6523
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If that car was stopped or blocked off this could be perceived as a carjacking event and probably grounds to shoot this guy...

But the woman had her window down (mistake) trying to talk to a bunch of people who probably hate whitey to begin with..

It does look like he's trying to open her door there. That or grab something inside.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:00 PM   #6524
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It does look like he's trying to open her door there. That or grab something inside.
It also looks like the people there who have a small amount of good sense are trying to pull the guy away from the car and keep the idiot from doing something catastrophically stupid.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:58 PM   #6525
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It does look like he's trying to open her door there. That or grab something inside.

Yup.. I say go ahead and shoot now and ask questions later
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