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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 07-23-2013, 11:48 AM   #6661
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Well, attempting to restrain free speech is a leftist principle. I always knew you were full of hot air.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:57 AM   #6662
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:02 PM   #6663
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Well, it appears to me this mega thread has entered a new topic is all.
Time for a new one on the new discussion. Otherwise, we have some false advertising here.
Does Zilla suffer from new thread-creation disability or something?
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:03 PM   #6664
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:10 PM   #6665
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Well, attempting to restrain free speech is a leftist principle. I always knew you were full of hot air.
That's why you're trying to restrain mine?

I didn't restrain any of his speech using any govt force. I heard what he said over and over without any restraints. He's just beating a dead horse at this point ...and that's my free speech commenting about his speech—which is also allowed.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:11 PM   #6666
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No, he's not a mean-spirited poster who uses personal attacks. He just doesn't know when to stop when something has come full course.

Oh and there's no such thing as "fake ignore" the settings also have a "View Post" too. That allows for customization but continue your stupid nonsense and copying others.
I don't know how it's gone full course when people besides me are obviously still posting about it. I am not the one who started the debate about race baiting. I only swerved the thread because I posted an opinion about it that is unpopular on cp.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:15 PM   #6667
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I don't know how it's gone full course when people besides me are obviously still posting about it. I am not the one who started the debate about race baiting. I only swerved the thread because I posted an opinion about it that is unpopular on cp.
Just my opinion.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:29 PM   #6668
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That's why you're trying to restrain mine?

I didn't restrain any of his speech using any govt force. I heard what he said over and over without any restraints. He's just beating a dead horse at this point ...and that's my free speech commenting about his speech—which is also allowed.
I'm not trying to restrain you. I'm wondering why you are embracing the leftist principle of restraining the free speech of others by appealing to the government of this board to lock the thread.
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Tired of this left/right bs. It's either R/D/I and that's it. All this other terminology is tiresome and useless.
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Tired of this left/right bs. It's either R/D/I and that's it. All this other terminology is tiresome and useless.
R/D/I is nothing more than a label for a group of people. left\right is a descriptor of a philosophy, a way of thinking. It makes more sense to use left\right than R/D/I, because any of the R/D/I people have left\right viewpoints.

Just sayin'.

For instance, I consider myself a conservative. I think the Republicans kinda suck. Cuz many have proven not to be conservative. See what I'm saying?
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:42 AM   #6671
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The sad truth is that from the President on down, our leadership has no clue, no clue at all about how to solve problems within the black community. And many are frightened to even broach the issue. That's because race hustlers and the grievance industry have intimidated the so- called "conversation," turning any valid criticism of African-American culture into charges of racial bias.

So many in power simply walk away leaving millions of law abiding African-Americans to pretty much fend for themselves in violent neighborhoods. You want racism? That's racism.

Thus, it is time for some straight talk, and I hope the President is listening tonight because we need him to lead on this issue.

Trayvon Martin was killed because circumstances got out of control. He was scrutinized by a neighborhood watchman, George Zimmerman, because of the way he looked. Not necessarily his skin color, there is no evidence of that but because he was a stranger to Zimmerman and was dressed in clothing sometimes used by street criminals.

It was wrong for Zimmerman to confront Martin based on his appearance. But the culture that we have in this country does lead to criminal profiling because young black American men are so often involved in crime, the statistics overwhelming.

But here is the headline: young black men commit homicides at a rate 10 times greater than whites and Hispanics combined. When presented with damning evidence like that, and like the mini-holocaust in Chicago where hundreds of African-Americans are murdered each year the civil rights industry looks the other way or makes excuses. They blame guns, poor education, lack of jobs, rarely do they define the problem accurately. So here it is. The reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the African-American family.

Right now about 73 percent of all black babies are born out of wedlock. That drives poverty. And the lack of involved fathers leads to young boys growing up resentful and unsupervised. When was the last time you saw a public service ad telling young black girls to avoid becoming pregnant? Has President Obama done such an ad? How about Jackson or Sharpton? Has the Congressional Black Caucus demanded an ad like that? How about the PC pundits who work for NBC News?

White people don't force black people to have babies out of wedlock. That's a personal decision; a decision that has devastated millions of children and led to disaster both socially and economically. So raised without much structure, young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. Nobody forces them to do that; again, it is a personal decision.

But the entertainment industry encourages the irresponsibility by marketing a gangster culture, hip hop, movies, trashy TV shows to impressionable children. In fact, President Obama has welcomed some of the worst offenders in that cesspool to the White House when he should be condemning what these weasels are doing. These so-called entertainers get rich while the kids who emulate their lyrics and attitude destroy themselves.

And then there is the drug situation. Go to Detroit and ask anyone living on the south side of the eight-mile road what destroyed their city? They will tell you narcotics. They know addiction leads to crime and debasement. But what do the race hustlers and limousine liberals yell about? The number of black men in prison for selling drugs. Oh, it's so unfair. It's a nonviolent crime and blacks are targeted. That is one of the biggest lies in the history of this country.

The thugs who sell hard drugs, no matter what color they are, deserve to be put away for long periods of time. They sell poison, they sell a product that enslaves and kills. They are scum.

When was the last time you heard the Congressional Black Caucus say that? How about Jackson and Sharpton? How about President Obama?

The solution to the epidemic of violent crime in poor black neighborhoods is to actively discourage pregnancies out of marriage, to impose strict discipline in the public schools, including mandatory student uniforms, and to create a zero tolerance policy for gun and drug crimes imposing harsh mandatory prison time on the offenders.

And finally, challenging the entertainment industry to stop peddling garbage. Hey listen up you greed heads, if a kid can't speak proper English, uses the "f" word in every sentence, it's disgraceful, it's disrespectful -- it's disrespectful in his or her manner. That child will never, never be able to compete in the marketplace of America... never. And it has nothing to do with slavery. It has everything to do with you Hollywood people and you derelict parents. You're the ones hurting these vulnerable children.

You want a conversation, you got it. You want a better situation for blacks, give them a chance to revive their neighborhoods and culture. Work with the good people to stop the bad people. Pumping money into the chaos does little. You can't legislate good parenting or responsible entertainment. But you can fight against the madness, with discipline, a firm message and little tolerance for excuse-making.

It is now time for the African-American leadership, including President Obama to stop the nonsense. Walk away from the world of victimization and grievance and lead the way out of this mess.

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Jfc. ..what an idiotic response. You deny institunilzed Rascim exist UNLESS that person is black. You act as if the black community should be able to dust off 200 years of Rascim Jim crow laws and effects it has had on the black community. You ddismiss any responsibility the system has in creating an environment of poverty and disconnect from the American dream. You believe in just 40 years 250 years of racial apartied can be wiped away and none of it's remnants remain. You vehemently deny the rights role in racist policies and behavior and place all the blame on liberals and black cultural. Black cultural created racism apparently-apparently black people should be able to fix 250 years of racism and it's effects in just 40 short years. According to you the idiot bigot you quoted and the majority of dc "blacks are now officialy on notice for not cleaning up the mess left behind from institunilzed racist , segregation, Jim crow, and a bias court system. .fast enough. " wow lol.
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Jfc. ..what an idiotic response. You deny institunilzed Rascim exist UNLESS that person is black. You act as if the black community should be able to dust off 200 years of Rascim Jim crow laws and effects it has had on the black community. You ddismiss any responsibility the system has in creating an environment of poverty and disconnect from the American dream. You believe in just 40 years 250 years of racial apartied can be wiped away and none of it's remnants remain. You vehemently deny the rights role in racist policies and behavior and place all the blame on liberals and black cultural. Black cultural created racism apparently-apparently black people should be able to fix 250 years of racism and it's effects in just 40 short years. According to you the idiot bigot you quoted and the majority of dc "blacks are now officialy on notice for not cleaning up the mess left behind from institunilzed racist , segregation, Jim crow, and a bias court system. .fast enough. " wow lol.

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I haven't commented in this thread yet (or if I have it was limited) because I largely don't care about this case. But can someone please edit the title to remove "innocent" from black youth?
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:39 AM   #6675
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I haven't commented in this thread yet (or if I have it was limited) because I largely don't care about this case. But can someone please edit the title to remove "innocent" from black youth?
So a Zimmerman not guilty verdict means Martin was guilty of what? Being black and profiled by a crazy guy with a gun harassing a kid with nothing but skittles?
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